BQ25173: BQ25173: calculation check for supercap RTC backup

Part Number: BQ25173

Hello,

I am using the BQ25173 to charge a 0.22 F, 3.5 V supercapacitor (NEXCW224Z3.5V10.7X5.5TRF) as a backup supply for a MAX31341C RTC.

RTC timekeeping current: ~200–370 nA
Minimum timekeeping voltage: 1 V

Input to charger: 3.3 V
Target supercap voltage: ~3.3 V

Circuit.jpeg

Output Voltage Setting
Rt = 499 k
Rb = 160 k
Vfb ≈ 0.8 V

Vout = 0.8 × (499 + 160) / 160 ≈ 3.3 V

Charge Current Setting
Ichg = Kiset / Riset
Kiset = 330 ohm·mA

Riset = 680 Ohm
Ichg ≈ 330 / 680 ≈ 0.485 mA

Estimated Charge Time
t = C × V / I

t = 0.22 × 3.3 / 0.000485
t ≈ 1500 s
t ≈ 25 minutes

Estimated RTC Backup Time
Usable charge:
Q = 0.22 × (3.3 − 1.0) = 0.506 C

Backup time:
T = 0.506 / 370e-9
T ≈ 1.37e6 s
T ≈ 380 hours (~16 days)

Measured Behavior
Vin = 3.3 V
Measured supercap voltage = 3.1 V

Possible reasons considered
• Dropout of the internal pass element
• Supercapacitor leakage
• Feedback and reference tolerances

Questions

  1. Is the charge current calculation (Ichg = 330 / Riset) correct?

  2. With Vin = 3.3 V and Vout set to 3.3 V, is the lower steady-state voltage expected?

  3. Is 3.1 V across the supercap normal in this setup?

  4. Any recommended practices for supercap backup with this charger?

Thank you.

  • Hello

    Is the charge current calculation (Ichg = 330 / Riset) correct?

    Ichg ≈ 330 / 680 ≈ 0.485 mA  --- This is correct, but the charge time value has a problem.  "t = 0.22 × 3.3 / 0.000485"  should be 0.485 and charge time will be about 1.5Sec

    With Vin = 3.3 V and Vout set to 3.3 V, is the lower steady-state voltage expected?

    Input to output voltage drop will be a problem.  See Figure 6-6 in the data sheet.  Output current is reduced as input to output voltage decreases.

  • Hello,

    Thank you for your previous response.

    I would like to clarify whether my backup-time calculations and observed charging behavior are correct with respect to the load.

    Backup time calculation:

    Usable charge:
    Q = 0.22 × (3.1 − 1.0) = 0.462 C

    T = 0.462 / 370e-9
    T ≈ 1.24e6 s
    T ≈ 347 hours (~14 days)

    Charging behavior:

    When power is applied, the supercapacitor charges quickly up to ~2.8 V, but takes about 20–25 minutes to increase from ~2.8 V to ~3.1 V.

    In summary:

    1. Is this approach for estimating backup time correct, or is there a more accurate method recommended for supercapacitor backup applications?
    2. Is the observed charging profile (fast to ~2.8 V, then very slow to ~3.1 V) normal for BQ25173 with a supercapacitor?

    Thank you.

  • Hi Charan

    Is this approach for estimating backup time correct, or is there a more accurate method recommended for supercapacitor backup applications?

    The backup or discharge time looks correct.

    Is the observed charging profile (fast to ~2.8 V, then very slow to ~3.1 V) normal for BQ25173 with a supercapacitor?

    I have not seen this behavior with the BQ25173.

    A good article by Wurth Electronics can be found HERE