In the UC3842 datasheet what is the synchronization function , I can't understand the word,
Can somebody make a easy example to explain this to me?
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Hi there!
Thanks for reaching out and for your interest in the UC3842! The synchronization function of the device allows the user to bypass the IC's oscillator by providing an external oscillating signal. As the datasheet states, this external signal (be it from an FPGA or a microcontroller) can be applied between the low side of the timing capacitor CT and the high side of a small resistor placed between CT and ground. This feature is useful for systems using multiple PWM controllers commanded by a master device and can ensure a more accurate duty cycle and reduce output ripple.
Thank you for getting in touch, I hope this information helps!
Aidan Davidson
Can you use picture to explain I still can't understand I have tow question I don;t get it
1.I know my turn on is based on the Capacitor charge turn off is based on the capacitor discharge, the charge voltage reach the upper threshold voltage, the capacitor would start discharge, if I add sync signal I can charge more depend on the voltage of signal ? if the upper threshold is 3V and I add the sync signal 1V it mean the capacitor will charge until the 4V ? I don't understand this part.
2.how can I make sure the pulse I add is on the RC/RC peak value, is it possible I add wrong position? like below the blue line
1. Yes, the PWM output is turned on when the capacitor begins charging but the PWM output doesn't turn off when the capacitor begins discharging, it turns off when the amplitude of the voltage on CT meets the value set by your circuit conditions. When your output turns off (your duty cycle) is determined by the feedback the PWM controller is receiving from the power stage. When your output voltage is low, your threshold for PWM output turning off (and your duty cycle) is higher. When your output voltage is high, your threshold for PWM output turning off (and your duty cycle) is lower. This means that there is a separate threshold above that where the capacitor begins discharging. Check out the image below:
From this figure, your PWM output would actually turn off when the voltage on CT reached the "error amplifier output" line. CT will continue charging until it reaches the upper comparator threshold. The addition of the synchronization pulse forces the voltage on CT to hit that upper threshold before CT is charged up to that value and triggers CT to immediately begin discharging.
2. You won't be making sure that the synchronization pulse is perfectly matched at the peak of the RT/CT waveform. The key here is to choose the amplitude of your synchronization pulse such that no matter where in the CT charge/discharge cycle the pulse arrives, CT is immediately triggered to discharge and restart the PWM output cycle.
1. I got it, the synchronization pulse forces the voltage on CT that's mean the turn on is the same but I can control the turn off time? so I can tune the switching frequency?
2.I still don't know what benefit of adding the synchronization pulse
in this picture adding the pulse shorten the Ton and make capacitor discharge more quick but it's also change the oscillator frequency rifht?
so the purpose of adding this is to adjust the frequency?
1. The synchronization pulse forces a reset of CT voltage. If the CT voltage is below the error amplifier threshold when this happens, the PWM output will turn off. If the CT voltage is above the error amplifier threshold, the dead-time will be shortened before the PWM output turns on again. You can definitely tune the switching frequency using the synchronization signal within the constraints defined in the datasheet (osc. frequency should be ~20% of sync. frequency).
2. The synchronization pulse has a lot of different benefits, the two biggest are the ability to synchronize different PWM controllers in interleaved power systems and the noise benefits, take a look below for a relevant figure:
Noise on the CT ramp can cause premature triggering of the device oscillator, the addition of the sync pulse can help prevent this. Other benefits are captured below:
1. I don't understand why you say If the CT voltage is below the error amplifier threshold when this happens, the PWM output will turn off. If the CT voltage is above the error amplifier threshold, the dead-time will be shortened before the PWM output turns on again in normal situation when Ct voltage reach the error amplifier threshold the PWN begin turn off. can you give a figure let I can understand more easily . I want to understand this part
2. according your answer I can understand this part
See pictured below 1 capacitor cycle and how it controls the PWM output. If the sync pulse occurs before line 1, the PWM output will prematurely turn off, essentially the sync pulse will skip forward in the cycle to after line 2. If the sync pulse occurs between line 1 and 2, the PWM output will already be turned off, but the capacitor will begin discharging immediately (skip forward in the cycle to after line 2). After line 3, the cycle restarts, the PWM output turns on and the capacitor begins charging again.
You can't decide the pulse position without inhuman reflexes. The PWM output will be affected for only a moment as the sync pulses begin arriving, not enough to cause any system issues.
As you mention before
If the sync pulse occurs before line 1, the PWM output will prematurely turn off, essentially the sync pulse will skip forward in the cycle to after line 2. If the sync pulse occurs between line 1 and 2, the PWM output will already be turned off, but the capacitor will begin discharging immediately (skip forward in the cycle to after line 2). After line 3, the cycle restarts, the PWM output turns on and the capacitor begins charging again.
the position of the pulse will affect the circuit work it will affect the turn on time or turn off time right?
but you said I can't decide the pulse position , so how do I make sure the pulse will not affect the turn on time or off time I still can't understand this
Hi again,
Tuning the oscillator frequency with a sync pulse will, by definition, affect the timing of the turn off and turn on of your PWM output. If you do not want to affect this timing, a sync pulse is not the way to go.
I don't think I'm understanding your concern here. Are you worried about affecting the turn on of the entire power stage? Or are you worried about the PWM output going from low to high? If you are worried about the PWM output going from low to high, the timing of this will be changed by definition as mentioned in previous posts. If you are concerned with the turn on of the entire power stage, I'm not sure (without more information about your schematic and/or application) how the addition of a sync pulse would affect the turn on.
I think you misunderstand
the figure you give me
if the charge voltage equal to error voltage it will turn off that mean line 1 (in the figure)
if I add the pulse before line 1 that will affect the turn right?
so we don't need to make sure where the pulse position?
and you said I can decide the pulse position
if I can't know the position of pulse how do I know the pulse if it can affect our turn on
The figure was created in order to illustrate my answer to your previous question, as you requested.
You are correct that if the pulse arrives before line 1, it has the potential to shorten the pulse on time. This is completely negligible from a system perspective. In a power stage using this controller there are hundreds of thousands of pulses a second. If one pulse is ended prematurely the control loop and compensation components of your power stage will help the controller to quickly respond, you may see a miniscule dip in the power supply output.
Yes, the sync pulse can initially affect the turn on, but it will have a negligible impact on the system.