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BQ40Z80: Power supply (VCC, BAT, and PACK) questions

Part Number: BQ40Z80
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: BQ40Z50

Hello, I am hoping you can help correct some conflicting information I have seen in the BQ40Z80 datasheet and EVM documents regarding the VCC, PACK, and BAT pins.

Datasheet: http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/slusbv4a/slusbv4a.pdf

EVM: http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/sluubz5/sluubz5.pdf

 

VCC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

First, some relevant information I have collected on the VCC pin:

  • Page 5 of datasheet: Pin 24 (P = Power Connection) Secondary power supply input. Connect to the middle of protection FETs though the series resistor
  • Page 1 of the datasheet shows 100 Ohm series resistor
  • Page 8 of datasheet has the following note: "A series 50-Ω or larger resistor is needed when voltage is applied beyond 28 V".
  • Page 29 of datasheet shows 510 Ohm series resistor as well as 2 100pF caps to VSS
  • Page 34 of datasheet (Section 9.2.2.4.3) says: "the VCC input uses a diode to guard against input transients and prevents misoperation of the date driver during short-circuit events"
  • Page 22 of EVM document shows 510 Ohm series resistor as well as 2 100pF caps to VSS

So my questions about VCC are:

  1. Do we only need a series resistor in 28V+ systems? IE are 6s and lower systems safe to wire straight to the middle of the protection FETS with just the caps to VSS and no series resistor?
  2. If we do need the series resistor, what is the recommended value? Why is 510 ohm used instead of 100 ohm?
  3. What is the note on page 34 referring to? Is it referring to a built in diode? Or is it saying there should be one on the PCB?

 

PACK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

First some relevant information I have collected on the PACK pin:

  • Page 5 of datasheet: Pin 25 (AI = Analog Input) Pack sense input pin. Connect through the series resistor to PACK+
  • Page 1 of the datasheet shows a 10k series resistor
  • Page 8 of datasheet has the following note: "A series 50-Ω or larger resistor is needed when voltage is applied beyond 28 V"
  • Page 29 of datasheet shows 1.1k Ohm series resistor as well as C6 unmarked capacitor to VSS
  • Page 34 of datasheet (Section 9.2.2.4.3) says: " The PACK input uses a 100-Ω resistor"
  • Page 22 of EVM document shows 1.1k Ohm series resistor as well as C6 unmarked cap to VSS
  • I understand C6 should be removed due to it slowing down the turn off time of the DSG FET from this post and others:

So my questions about PACK are:

  1. Do we only need a series resistor in 28V+ systems? IE are 6s and lower systems safe to wire straight to the PACK output with no series resistor?
  2. If we do need the series resistor, should it be 1.1k, or 10k ohms? What effect do those different resistances have?
  3. What is the note on page 34 referring to? Is it saying there is a built in 100 Ohm resistor, or we should include a 100 ohm resistor in our PCBs? (Instead of the 1.1/10k?)

 

BAT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Similar to VCC and Pack above, does BAT only need the series resistor for 7s (28V+) systems? Is it safe with just the diode and no series resistor for 6s and lower packs?