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UCC28780: Start-up problem

Part Number: UCC28780

I am using the UCC28780. The waveform of VDD appears in the startup time as shown below. The RUN pin has not been set high. The schematic used is the same as TIDA-01622.

  • Hello User4731692,

    Thank you for your interest in the UCC2780 ACF controller.  It is fortunate that you captured the waveform shown above.  The sharp drop in VDD voltage at the left-most corner indicates some kind of problem during a start-up attempt.  Since there is no switching activity at the peaks of VDD, I suspect that the problem involves one of the faults which result in the 1.5-second shutdown cycle (tFDR restart) as listed in Table 2 (page 30) and Table 3 (page 35) in the UCC28780 datasheet.

    You will need to zoom in on REF, RUN and PWML signals at the peak of VDD (which is typically 17.5V) when the start-up switching should begin.
    If REF does not go high (5V), none of the other signals will go high.  If REF = 5V but RUN stays low, then the fault is one that has no "Delay to Action".
    If RUN does go high (5V) but you get no PWML signals (1, 3 or 4 pulses), then one of those faults needs to be investigated.

    Please check the symptoms listed in Tables 2 and 3 to find which matches your situation the closest, and solve that.

    Regards,
    Ulrich

  • Hello Ulrich,

    The waveform after retesting is shown in the figure. The yellow is the waveform of VDD, the green is the waveform of the HVG pin, the blue is the waveform of Vref, and the purple is the RUN pin (not set high).


    The fault may be a fault without "delay action". How to check and solve the fault?

    thanks for your help.

  • Hello User4731692,

    The second set of waveforms that you posted are normal except for no RUN or PWML pulses.  This situation would be true during the 1.5s interval between start-up retries.

    I request that you concentrate on the special case where the VDD drops suddenly, as in your first waveform:

    If this drop recurs every 1.5s and you can trigger on it, you may be able to capture something happening on RUN or PWML.  If this is the main clue to the problem, I think some sudden overload on VDD is causing a fault where there is no delay to action, or 1 to 3 pulses of PWML.

    At these slow sweep speeds (100ms/div), your scope may not be able to resolve a few microseconds of RUN or PWML signals.  But at a fast sweep (10us/div) there may be some signals that can be captured.  Please see if this drop happens every ~1.5s, and try to trigger on it to make a fast sweep and see what's going on. 

    As an alternative, you can trigger on REF going high each VDD-UVLO cycle, with a 10us/div sweep.  Maybe 4 out of 5 times there are no signals, but 1 out of 5 times there should be a RUN signal whenever the IC attempts to restart after the ~1.5s delay.

    Regards,
    Ulrich

  • Hello User4731692,

    I haven't seen any reply since my last posting.  Have you been able to get your circuit powered up?

    I hope so.  On that premise I will close this thread, but if you still have difficulties you can re-open it.

    Regards,
    Ulrich

  • Hello Ulrich,

    Thank you for your help and attention. I am sorry to forget to reply to you.

    After re-creating the circuit, I have been able to power up the circuit.