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TPS82140: Entery capacitor becomes in short-circuit

Part Number: TPS82140

Hello,

i made a design powered by a TPS82140.  The product is a GSM (2G) Modem, so we have some current peaks (less than 1A at the entry).

Components are the same as datasheet specifications except the entry capacitor put at 22uF (16V X5R), which should be better.

On 3 products (from 200 manufactured), this capacitor comes in short-circuit after about 3 weeks used.

Is someone have ever seen this problem ? Could it be due to current peaks ?

Thank's for answer.

Regards

Romuald

  • Hi Romuald,

    Is the input 12V? You may want to probe the input voltage and check if there are any repetitive spikes on the input line above the 16V rating of the capacitor during power up, or during any other transient events.

    Kris

  • Thank you Kris for your answer.

    The input voltage is 7,2V (2 Li-SOCL2 batteries) and 3,6V for the output.

    i will check tomorrow and come back.

    Thank's again !

    Romuald

  • Hi Romuald, did you get a chance to check for high transients on your input?

  • Hi Kris,

    i made measurement on my card. The start up is quiet, tensions grow up slowly. But after few seconds, the TPS82140 goes into an unstable state. i can see oscillations with a big amplitude (13,5V max) ! i think this is caused by the consumption which passes from few mA to about 1A by spikes, during a short time.

    Oscillations can be seen on the input and sometimes on the output.

    On the card powered by the TPS82140, we have 2 470uF electrochimical capacitors and several other ceramics.

    How can i avoid this phenomen ? 

    Thank's

    Romuald

  • Correction :

    Perhaps the oscillations observed aren't true... i think it's a bad use of oscilloscope. i'm not sure i will verify... and i'll come back to you.

    Regards

    Romuald

  • Hello,

    OK, the oscillations i see are due to our GPRS communication. It's "normal" to see this fog during transmission with 1GHz BP oscillo.

    i did several measures in different conditions (standby of our product, normal consumtion with spikes...) and it's OK for the tension measured on the first capacitor.

    When we look for this problem on Internet about X5R capacitor, we can find some issues due to MLCC cracks, because of mecanical stress. Perhaps it's our problem... We will see with our manufacturer.

    Thank you if anyone has an idea ?

    Best reards

    Romuald

  • Hi Romuald,

    We may have been reading over the same material on the web -- yes, apart from electrical stress, mechanical stress/cracking are the reason for MLCC short that I have found and am aware of. Hopefully your manufacturer can provide you with some clues.

    Kris

  • OK Kris,

    Thank you. We can consider that the problem is solved.

    Have a nice day

    Romuald