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LDC3114: Reference coil design

Part Number: LDC3114

Tool/software:

I recived advice how do we use "LDC_Tools-ext51.xlsx".
For our reference, first we set parametor that TI team designed for themseves.
But following parametors are not clear.
In order to fill in all needed parametrs of "LDC_Tools-ext51.xlsx", could you let me know following parametors?
We wouul like to know sepcific value
(1)Sensor Capacitance
(2)Outer diameter of the inductor
(3)PCB thickness between 1st layer and 2nd layer
(4)Copper thickness
(5)Target distance

  • Hello, 

    For our reference, first we set parametor that TI team designed for themseves.

    I believe you are referring to the design shared with Toshiro. Here is the FPCB that we were discussing: 

    1. Sensor Capacitance
      1. This value can be set to adjust the sensor resonant frequency if needed. In the testing previously shared, the BOOST-LDC3114EVM was used which has a 220pF capacitor for this value. 
    2. Outer diameter of the inductor
      1. Since it is a racetrack style coil, there is a short size and long side for the diameter. The corresponding values are 15mm and 35mm. 
    3. PCB Thickness
      1. The FPCB that this was built on has a thickness of 0.26mm 
    4. Copper thickness
      1. For this, 1oz copper was used. 
    5. Target distance 
      1. For the example previously shared, a target distance of about 0.4mm was used. 

    With all of this, the Spiral Inductor Designer tab of the LDC_Tools-ext51.xlsx spreadsheet should look like this: 

    Best Regards, 
    Justin Beigel

  • Hello Justin-san

    Thank you for information of your FPC design.
    It is very helpful for our design, we proceed our own FPC design.

    Best regards,
    Hirohisa

  • Hello Justin-san
    Sorry for my comment continually,,
    Could you please share the pattern on the bottm saide as well as the top saide?



    Best regards,
    Hirohisa

  • Hello Hirohisa-san, 

    Here are the top and bottom layers of the FPCB respectively: 

    The main concern for the layout is to follow the coil winding recommendations from section 2.3 of our Sensor Design for Inductive Sensing Applications Using LDC (Rev. C) app note: 

    Best Regards, 

    Justin Beigel

  • Hello, Justine-san

    Thank you for providing bottom layer pattern image.
    I understanad precautions that pattern layout on multilayer boards, such as placing them in the opposite direction.
    I check carefully application note.

    Best regards,
    Hirohisa

  • Hello Justin-san,


    I tried putting several patterns into your tool by changing the outer diameter, line width, and line spacing as below..



    Could you please give me some advice on which parameters I should look at to make a decision? For example is it better to choose a large frequency difference? Could you please give me some advice on the criteria for making a decision?

  • Hello Hirohisa-san, 

    For this application, you are utilizing the bend in the sensor to create the dynamic range in your data. To maximize the dynamic range of the data, I think it is then best to use a racetrack style coil and ensure the long side of the inductor is a larger value to allow for more coil area to change as the bend occurs. It would be important to keep in mind the physical space you have available for the sensor implementation for this. Smaller trace widths and spacing can be used if you need to add more turns to increase the inductance of the coil. Alternatively, larger trace widths can increase the parallel resistance of the coil which helps reduce the current consumption of the coil while it is active. 

    Hope this helps. 

    Best Regards,
    Justin Beigel

  • Hellom, Justin-san

    I understand your advise. 
    It is very helpful for our coil design, 
    Once we have decided on the coil pattern, we will contact you again.

    Best regards,
    Hirohisa

  • Hello Hirohisa-san, 

    Happy to help. I am going to mark this thread as closed for now but feel free to ask follow up questions here or in a new thread if you need. 

    Best Regards, 
    Justin Beigel

  • Hello Justin-san

    Thank you, I agree you mark as closed. As I mentioned, when we fix our coil design, I will inform you again,