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HDC3021: Negative Offset Correction and low end sensitivity

Part Number: HDC3021

Tool/software:

We are testing HDC3021 sensors and have come across a situation where a few samples have negative RH offset that cannot be corrected with the rehydration procedure. If we write a positive RH offset the sensor is accurate above the offset value, but it does not return any value below the offset. Is it possible to bring back this low end sensitivity or when an offset is applied is that value the new minimum that the sensor will measure?

  • Hello Harrison,

    If there is a negative offset in the RH measurement hydration is key to correcting the error. Rehydration allows ambient humidity to re-hydrate the sensing polymer, which is dried out in the assembly process due to the high temperatures. How are you rehydrating HDC3021? Where and when in the development process are the RH errors detected? We recommend for the sensor to re-hydrate at 20C, 50% for 5 days.

    Best Regards,

    Meredith McKean

  • Hello Meredith,

    This test started approximately 2 weeks after assembly. During assembly the tape was removed from the sensor and it would have been exposed to ambient conditions. After the negative offset was observed, we used a humidity generator to flow moist air over the sensor. The conditions were not tightly controlled but it was around 70% humidity and 25c over one week. The samples were tested again after the week and the negative offset still existed.

    Can you confirm when a positive offset value is written into the sensor, should that sensor return values below that offset? The accuracy and sensitivity is still very good on these sensors, but the problem is we do not get any measurements on the low end so it is only accurate above the offset.

    Thank you

  • Hello Harrison,

    The RH offset you apply are the new floor for your measurements. So, if they have a -4% offset across the RH range, they can apply a +5% RH offset to make the baseline level +1%. However, if they go to 0% RH, the part will now read +1% at the lowest. It's just a hard digital add to whatever the reading is.

    I'm currently trying to understand what is causing the offset, so an offset would not need to be applied. Does RH read lower with increasing temp as system is on?

    Best Regards,

    Meredith McKean

  • Thanks for working on this. To answer your question completely I ran two sensors I have labeled ID 101 and 103 in a low moisture environment cycling temperature from 10-60-20c and recorded the output along with a reference PPMv measurement. The results are attached here, but quick answer is yes RH does read lower as temperature increases. 

    For our application the accuracy is not so important. We are interested in knowing how much moisture has increased from a very low humidity start point. We are impressed with the sensitivity, It seems like if the sensor just reported values below 0 RH, while it has no physical meaning, it would work well in our application.

    PTH temp cycle results.xlsx

  • I should mention, if you look at the test results, ID 103 still has a large positive offset. I believe 5.1%RH is the offset we left in the sensor.

  • Hello Harrison,

    HDC3021 does not report RH values below 0%.  

    Best Regards,

    Meredith McKean

  • I Understood that, I was just commenting that it looks like it would work well if it were able to. I have seen other RH sensors in the past return negative values. let me know if you have any insight to the cause of the offset.

  • Hello Harrison,

    Can you explain to be what RH% value you are wanting to match to? Are you wanting to match ID 101 to ID 103? Can you explain your error to me in more detail?

    Best Regards,

    Meredith McKean

  • Good Morning,

    I am comparing the output from these sensors to a dew point sensor in the same system. Here is a plot of the results at the low end. The HDC3021 sensor output is on the y axis and the reference is on the x axis. The three sensor return 0 RH at 1.5% RH and are between 1 and 2 % RH low on the rest of the measurements. 

  • Hello Harrison,

    What is the desired RH%? Are you wanting to match LO103 to LO101 or LO102?

    Best Regards,

    Meredith McKean

  • The desired is the reference RH shown on the x axis. The reference comes from a separate dew point sensor. ideally all three would match the reference.

  • Hello Harrison,

    Can you provide the plot that you provided with more data points? I want to see the full offset of the device. I see that you have provided an excel sheet with PPMv and the reference humidity. Can you provide those values in relative humidity (RH%)? 

    Best Regards,

    Meredith McKean

  • Yes here is the full plot of all test points, I also included the reference line on the plot to get an idea of offset.

     

    Regarding the excel file, that was meant more to just be a quick test on RH response based on temperature to answer your above question. The humidity was likely not uniform throughout the three sensors at the start of the test. By the end it should be uniform. I also did not record a true reference RH measurement, only the ppmv. I can provide a close approximation using the temperature measured at each sensor and assuming 1 atm pressure. Calculated references are attached for each sensor, as well as what the raw output from 103 would have been.

    Updated_temp_test.xlsx

  • Hello Harrison,

    Thank you for providing the plot. To further understand what is causing the offset. Are you aware of any chemical contaminants that are exposed to HDC3021? What is your assembly process?

    Best Regards,

    Meredith McKean