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PMP9761: Weird explanations about PMP9761 at document SLVA676

Part Number: PMP9761
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TPS63060, TPS63802, TPS61094

Hello,

While drawing backup power circuit with SLVA676, I found some equations are not fit with their explanation.

1) I_PCH

At part 3.1, equation (1) defines I_PCH as below.

I_PCH = (V_main-V_D1-Vc)/R1,

where I_PCH = pre-charge currnet, V_d1 = voltage drop from diode, Vc = Backup capacitor voltage(normally above 2.2V), R1 = Series resistor.

At part 4, each parameters are assumed as V_main=5, V_D1=1, Vc=2.5, R1=27.

Now I_PCH should be (5-1-2.5)/27=560mA, but the document says I_PCH=150mA.

2) C_min

At part 3.3, equation (6) defines C_min as below.

C_min=2*T*P/(eff*(V_CF^2 - V_CL^2)),

where C_min=Minimum value of backup capacitor, T=backup time, P=backup power.

eff=efficiency and it is about 90%, V_CF and V_CL is 10V and 9.3V respectively.

At part 4, T is assumed as 4ms and P is 5W.

So C_min should be 2*0.004*5/(0.9*(10^2-9.3^2)) = 0.04/13.51 = 0.003, but it was said C_min = 550uF.

Is there any typo or missing parameters at the document?

  • Hi Sungjae Kim,

    I'll have a look at the mentioned document and calculations and come back to you tomorrow. I will also contact the original author of the design/document.

    Best regards

    Markus

  • Hi Sungjae Kim,

    1) I_PCH

    The pre-charging current linearly decreases with the increase of the backup capacitor voltage, VC.

    In chapter 4 the maximum pre-charge current gets calculated where VC = 0V

    2) C_min

    V_CF is the backup capacitor voltage at comparator falling threshold which is 9.3V

    V_CL: is the minimum discharge voltage of the backup capacitor which is 2.5V (the minimum input voltage of the TPS63060)

    Could you share your basic requirements? we have newer devices specifically made for Backup Power applications like TPS61094. There is also a design with our newer TPS63802: https://www.ti.com/lit/an/slvaei4a/slvaei4a.pdf?

    best regards, Michael