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CC1310: CC1310

emin sivri
Prodigy 95 points
Part Number: CC1310
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: WMBUS, CC1190

Hi

Does CC1310 have Band pass filter?I will use LNA with CC1310.I found so many RF amplifiers.But they have so large bandwith.Should I use externall Band pass filter with LNA?Also Can you suggest just any LNA for CC1310?

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    TI__Guru**** 317180 points

    To first go one step back: It's not clear why you ask about a bandpass filter? Could you elaborate a bit on the background for your question? Could you also elaborate on the reason you are looking for a LNA and which datarate etc you are planning to use. 

    Note that CC1310 has different filters in the RX path, both in the analog and digital domain. The last filter is a channel filter.

    www.ti.com/.../swra542

  • 0 in reply to TER
    Prodigy 95 points

    We are using CC1310 to read WMBUS water mater.RF performance of our HW is same with CC1310 LP.But custumers want more.We can read water meters 800meter far from our device.Custemers need 2 km.We are using 868Mhz frequency.So we will do 2 design.One of them is using CC1310 and CC1190 like CC1190 LP.I did desing a custom bord and I will try it on our HW.But Our device is far from antenna in field.Our custemer place device far from antena.Distance is 15m between them.They are using N type omni antenna .RF cable is great which they use for it but we suspected for this application.Because of this we want to use just LNA at antenna side.LNA will be near antenna.thus mybe we can improve RX performance.Also we send power on RF cable for LNA.Can I use B39871B3725U410 filter like your CC1190 LP?

  • 0 in reply to emin sivri
    TI__Guru**** 317180 points

    Which WMBUS mode are we looking at here? 

    Looking at what would be possible: 

    A LNA can improve the sensitivity about 3 dB. If you use https://www.ti.com/tool/RF-RANGE-ESTIMATOR, how much do you need to improve sensitivity to get 2 km range? 

  • 0 in reply to TER
    Prodigy 95 points

    We are using T1 and C1 modes

  • 0 in reply to emin sivri
    TI__Guru**** 317180 points

    T1 and C1 is 100 kbps, then I get an estimate showing ~ 250 m with the following setup:

    This indicate that when you have tested some of the parameters are different from what I have used here. Which one(s)? 

  • 0 in reply to TER
    Prodigy 95 points

    we are using 5db antenna.Also meter is Line of side in field.

  • +1 in reply to emin sivri
    TI__Guru**** 317180 points

    For some reason the tool defaulted to poor antennas when I opened it.

    For every 6 dB increase in the link budget the range is increased x2. With an extra external LNA you can potentially increase the link budget with 4 dB (the LNA in CC190 gives 3 dB extra) the estimated range is 940 m. This is a very ideal range since no link margin is taken into account meaning that for practical use the range will in many cases be less. Also the sensitivity is for 1 % BER, sending WMBUS packets which are longer the sensitivity is slightly worse. As I see it, 2 km (robust) range is not realistic using T1 and C1 modes.