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TPA3132D2 filterless - Output failed - FAULTZ tripped

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TPA3132D2, TEST2

Hi all,

testing our TPA3132D2 filterless implementation resulted in a permanent faulty output .


The outputs are pretty much standard, means 220nF 50V X7R bootstrap-capacitors, no bootstrap-snubbers, no LC or ferrite-filter.

Decoupling per channel: 1nF COG + 100nF X7R + 330uF Low-ESR, AVCC is filtered via an RC (10R + 1uF).


Testsetup:

Idle:

Pin = 20V * 35mA = 0,7W
T(TPA) = 42C
T(amb) = 16.5C

Loadtest:

VCC: 20V
Signal: 2.2Vpp sinewave 30Hz
Gain: 26dB
Pin: 20V*1Arms=20W

1 channel

Load: Monacor SP6/100/8R freeair
Wiring: 2x50cm parallel cable

System temperatures after 10 minutes:

T(TPA) = 65C
T(330u) = 35C

After 20 minutes, the amp failed with no output and tripped FAULTZ

Restarting the test results in a FAULTZ-tripping when reaching ~200mA input-current. (still only on channel loaded)

The bootstrap-voltages measures 6.0V and 6.23V for this channel, while the other is at 6.23V on both bootstraps.

Testing the other channel with the same setup, FAULTZ is triggered between 0.5-1A system-current. (leaving the faulty one open)

Changes made:

- replacing the speaker with 10R resistive load: no change

- replaced bootstrap-capacitors: no change

- adding bootstrap-snubbers 220pF + 10R: no change

- adding ferrites at the output: no change

- adding full LC-Filter 10uH + 680nF: running good, no more FAULTZ tripping even when fully overdriven

Question:


Does the TPA needs the "reactive current" to work correct?
Did a transient due to reflection (caused by "hard-switching") killed the outputstage?
Do we need to limit the current via PLIMIT? (Will this work without reactive current)

As from the datasheet, LC-filter / ferritebeads, bootstrap-snubbers, current-limiting are optional.

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The TPA313xD2 modulation scheme has little loss in the load without a filter because the pulses are short and
the change in voltage is VCC instead of 2 × VCC. As the output power increases, the pulses widen, making the
ripple current larger. Ripple current could be filtered with an LC filter for increased efficiency, but for most
applications the filter is not needed.
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Regards,

Christian

  • Hi, Christian,

    Do you have the schematic for review? Have you tried using the EVM on your test setup?

    reg,

    Paul.

  • Dear Paul,

    please see the attached schematic. We used our own implementation based in values from datasheet/evm-manual.

    (PCB-Layout shown here:

    )


    Regards,


    Christian

  • We did some further testing with another board. This time, we have snubbers equipped.

    Source: 30Hz
    Amplitude: up right before clipping
    Load: 1 channel 8R Bass 12" freeair
    Wire: 150cm
    Gain: 26dB
    Snubber: 10R+220p
    Filter: none
    SWf: 400kHz

    Test1 (Idle, no signal):

    PVCC: 19V
    Iin: 0.038A
    Temperatures (after 5min):
    Tamb: 18°C
    Tcap: 25°C
    Tpcb_bottom: 35°C

    Test2 (Loaded)
    Iin:0.9A
    Temperatures (after 10min)
    Tamb: 18°C
    Tcap: 29.5°C
    Tpcb_bottom: 44°C
    Tic_top: 53°C

    FAULTZ tripped 3x times randomly.

    PVCC now changed to 23V8:

    Test3 (idle)
    Iin: 0.044A
    Temperatures (after 5min):
    Tamb: 18°C
    Tcap: 28.5°C
    Tpcb_bottom: 41.6°C
    Tic_top: 45°C
    Iin: 0.044A

    FAULTZ tripped after ~4minutes WITH and WITHOUT a load connected.

    Running the load test (PVCC=23V8, Iin=1A), resulted in a faultloop after ~7 minutes. Temperatures seem to be normal.

    Additionally added C25 with 100nF in value. (FAULTZ+SDZ to GND) and retested:

    Test4 (Load):
    Iin:1A
    Temperatures (after 10min):
    Tamb: 18.9°C
    Tcap: 32.3°C
    Tpcb_bottom: 52.7°C
    Tic_top: 65°C

    FAULTZ tripped after 14 minutes without any temp-problem. Test finished after 20 minutes with only 1 issue - so there isnt any temperature problem.

    We really wonder, why FAULTZ is tripping even in idle randomly. 100nF to GND and SDZ/FAULTZ seems to help/fix this, so whats the problem here - what is tripping FAULTZ while idling?

    1. Temp.limit
    2. over current
    3. DC in/out
    4. UVlo ?

    Regards,

    Christian

  • Final update, after reflowing the suspicious ICs, everything is working up to their thermal limits.


    So, everything is fine now.


    Regards,


    Christian