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PCM6240-Q1: MICBIAS Output Abnormal

Part Number: PCM6240-Q1
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: PCM6260-Q1

Tool/software:

Hi team,

My customer Bosch are using PCM6260-Q1 for their projects, SCH as below.

PCM6260_0801.pdf

They met an MICBIAS output abnormal issue that when connect MIC output is 1.xV, and when disconnect MIC output is 0V. This issue is hard to replicate and maybe will take 2-3days to replicate this issue. Fail rate 3/400 units.

Register setting as below:

Looks they are using correct setting, do you have any ideals to debug this issue? Thanks for your support

Best Regards,

Xiaowei Zhang

  • Hi Xiaowei,

    Many in our team are out of office right now, please allow until next week to receive a response.

    Best,

    Garret

  • Hi team,

    Can you please help on this case? Thanks

    Best Regards,

    Xiaowei Zhang

  • Hi team,

    Today we have replicate this issue again. When issue happens, we test the pin voltage and found the U33S_PERI=BSTVDD=2.1V, BSTOUT=1.6V, and MICBIAS=1.2V. In normal condition U33S_PERI should be 3.3V, so we doubt that PCM6260 cause the U33S_PERI 3.3V drop.

    Then we disconnect the L1401 in this issue condition without power off the board, U33S_PERI recover to 3.3V.  And after we power off the board and reconnect the L1401, then power on, the issue disappear.

    Have you met such issue before? And can you please provide some suggestions for issue analysis?

    Best Regards,

    Xiaowei Zhang

  • Hi,

    I suggest removing the schottky diodes on the pull up of each input line to MICBIAS. 

    I also suggest placing the unit with MICBIAS error on an EVM and placing a new IC on the customer test board without the diodes.

  • Hi Daveon,

    I suggest removing the schottky diodes on the pull up of each input line to MICBIAS. 

    I will ask customer to try this.

    I suggest removing the schottky diodes on the pull up of each input line to MICBIAS. 

    This circuit has MP for million units on different projects before, but never met this issue.

    Then we disconnect the L1401 in this issue condition without power off the board, U33S_PERI recover to 3.3V.  And after we power off the board and reconnect the L1401, then power on, the issue disappear.

    So is it possible that PCM6260 cause the U33S_PERI drop? This issue is very very different to replicate, what we should to test when met this issue next time?

    Best Regards,

    Xiaowei Zhang

  • Hi Xiaowei,

    I missed your comment about the inductor. We typically recommend a 600Ohm at 100MHz inductor here. It is possible for the current inductor to be too large, which slows the charge of BSTVDD, delay startup, or limit current and lead to MICBIAS undervoltage.

    The exact inductor used on our EVM is listed in the user's guide.

  • Hi Daveon,

    It is possible for the current inductor to be too large, which slows the charge of BSTVDD, delay startup, or limit current and lead to MICBIAS undervoltage.

    It is not a 100% duplicate issue, most of time the board works well. It will take 2-3 days even more time to replicate this issue.

    Best Regards,

    Xiaowei Zhang

  • Hi Daveon,

    We typically recommend a 600Ohm at 100MHz inductor here. It is possible for the current inductor to be too large, which slows the charge of BSTVDD, delay startup, or limit current and lead to MICBIAS undervoltage.

    I didn't see 600Ohm at 100MHz inductor is used when I review the EVM user guide.

    The results we observe is the BSTVDD always 2.1V when issue occurs. So is it possible that PCM6260 cause the U33S_PERI drop? U33S_PERI is 3.3V when the board works well.

    Best Regards,

    Xiaowei Zhang

  • HI Xiaowei,

    Yes, i think that could be the issue. BSTVDD supply should be a stable 3.3V.

    As a sanity check for proper operation, BSTOUT should always be ~1V-1.5V higher than the programmed MICBIAS value.

  • Hi Daveon,

    Yes, i think that could be the issue. BSTVDD supply should be a stable 3.3V.

    Does PCM6260 have register to indicate BSTVDD error or Boost in abnormal operation? We don't see any register abnormal when this issue happens.

    Best Regards,

    Xiaowei Zhang

  • Hi,

    No there is not a diagnostic register for this function. I suggest replacing the inductor and note for any instability issues or placing the unit on an EVM for a controlled environment to evaluate.