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TAS5611A problem

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Hi,

We are using the TAS5611A in a configuration where there is a transformer at the end of the smoothing filter. The op smoothing filter is more or less the same as that of the EVM circuit of this device. We have built several boards and are testing them. We noticed that there are differences in the no load current (no load on the transformer secondary) between the boards. On a good device the no load current is about 150mA on a compromised device the no load current can be as high as 500mA. We think that on the devices showing high no load current the heat sink might not have been seated properly. The transformer magnetization current is negligible.

Then when tested with a load the good devices give an output acoustic power that is in line with expectations of the circuit and the compromised devices give an output that is much less. We are fairly positive that even though the heat sink might not have been seated properly the devices did not overheat excessively. We would also expect that even if the devices did overheat as there is protection on the circuit the device should not be damaged.

The testing however points to permanent damage on the compromised power amplifiers and I suspect that the Rds-on in the internal mosfets have increased which explains the higher no load current as well as the reduced acoustic output.

The questions are as follows:

1. Even if the devices did overheat is it possible for the MOSFETS to be compromised and the Rds-on to increase?

2. Wouldn't the temperature protection of the IC prevent permanent damage such as this?

3. With temperature rise does the Rds-on migrate to a higher value and stay there?

4. Another possibility is that there could be a large current drawn by the transformer in the first cycle depending on which part of the waveform cycle it is switched in. Wouldn't the short circuit protection safeguard the chip against damage from short circuits?

I look forward to answers and discussion to the above.

BR

Manjula

  • Hi, Manjula,

    Unfortunately, we do not have a lot of experience with transformer-coupled loads.

    A few years ago, one of our apps engineers wrote this app note. Unfortunately, he has retired.

    I suppose it is possible that the device may have become damaged if you tried to drive how power without a good heat sink connection. In this case, the thermal protection may not have protected the IC adequately.

    rDS(on) does in fact, have a positive temp co, but once the junction temperature is reduced, the rDS(on) should reduce as well.

    I know many people in the community try to use our audio devices to drive non-audio transformer-coupled loads. Perhaps some of the might be willing to share their experiences with you.

    -d2

  • Hi D2

    Thank you for the reply. It seems that the rDS(on) is staying permanently higher than a normal device. Also the observation we have is that the no-load current drops as the device heats up which is the opposite of what you say above regarding rDS(on).

    Further on one of the high current boards we changed the power amplifier chip for a new chip. We were careful to attach the heat-sink and made sure that it is seated correctly. After changing we observed that even though the no-load current has dropped that it was still higher than a normal board.

    I think the above two observations could point to a different device failure such as one of the components in the output filter circuit such as a ceramic capacitor. We use 100V rated multilayer ceramic caps as well as HV polyester caps. We will investigate these components and let you know what we find.

    BR

    Manjula

  • Does the ESR of the transformer appear as a load at DC to the Class D? You could be seeing the difference in output offset voltage expressed across the ESR, creating additional supply current.