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TLV320AIC3104: question about analog mono iuput & ADC

Part Number: TLV320AIC3104
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TLV320AIC3106

Hi,

We would ask about TLV320AIC3104.

1. Is it possible to support analog mono input 1EA?
  - I am using the input specification for Modem in CS4299 (Attached file) that I used previously.
2. There is maximum 32bit data specification for DAC. Is ADC not necessary separately?
  - For CS4299, the ADC is 18bit.

cs4299-4_audio codec.pdf


And the criterion that I reviewed was DAC, ADC, sampling rate, SNR, if you have other audio codec selection criteria, please let me know.

thanks,


TS

  • TS,

    1: The AIC3104 has very flexible input routing. There are 2 ADCs, each input can be routed to each or both of the ADCs.
    2: are you asking if the ADC bit rate can be selected separately from the DAC?

    best regards,
    -Steve Wilson
  • Hi Steve,
    thanks for your quick answer.
    as for the question #2, I'm just wondering the bit specification of ADC inside the TLV320AIC3104.
    The datasheet states that the DAC is 32 bits, but I do not think there are any specs related to the ADC bits.
    I want to compare the specifications with the products we used.
    thanks,
    TS
  • TS,

    I am checking in with the design team for a specific answer, but in the meantime It probably makes more sense to look at this from the perspective of ENOB and Dynamic range. The CS4299 lists its ADC as 18bit. but with a dynamic range of 90dB (typical for CS4299-KQ , the CS4299-JQ is 85) you're looking at an Enob of roughly 14.7. the AIC3104 has a dynamic range of 92dB which would give you just slightly more at 15. I would say that the ADCs are similar, with the ADCs in the AIC3104 giving you a little better performance.

    best regards,
    -Steve
  • Hi Steve,

    Modem phone input function is used in previous CS4299 audio codec.
    (See page 38 of the attached document)

    2376.cs4299-4_audio codec.pdf

    Can I replace the recommended audio codec (TLV320AIC3104) above?

    thanks,

    TS

  • Hello TS,

    first, I want to let you know that I did hear back from the design team regarding the Bit specification:

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    "Internally we have accumulator with more than 32-bits precision therefore we are able to generate data LSB bits toggling even in 32-bits output configuration setting.

    Having said that the Audio Converters device real performance depends upon Converter SNR and Dynamic Range spec rather than interface resolution or internal accumulator precision which can be as high as 32-bits.
    For Audio Converter due to real-time audio signal conversion it doesn’t make sense to define device performance as ENOB or bit resolution like SAR or other converters does which are mostly used for DC measurement applications. There is an AES (audio engineering society) standard which defines various audio performance parameters etc and that is followed by TI and our audio competitors products as well. Normally for 18-bit resolution device the SNR spec required is as high as ~110dB or so."

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    now regarding your question, The TLV320AIC3104 or TLV320AIC3106 could replace the CS4299 depending on the application. The AIC310x devices do not have a built in S/PDIF output, so if that is a necessity it would require another IC. none of our Codecs have a S/PDIF out. additionally the AC LINK communications would be scrapped for I2S and I2C. but I would think that would probably be a relief to most Customers.

    otherwise, our devices seem to match the inputs requirements and, and they have more output capabilities, including built in headphone amplifiers.


    best regards,
    -STeve Wilson