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ADS1675: Strange behavior with warmed-up component

Part Number: ADS1675
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: LP2992, TPS82130

Tool/software:

We use the ADS1675 in one of our products which is already in mass production. Normally it works fine. But roughly every 100th device we see a strange behavior.

We use the ADS1675 to convert an analog signal from a detector measuring an actuators position. At first the ADS1675 works fine, but then after about an hour, when the component is warmed up, the output signal seems to be superimposed by a kind of square wave signal.

To illustrate this behavior, I recorded data with an intact component and a warmed up faulty component. Both components are measuring an actuator at standstill. So actually only the measurement noise would be recorded.

As you can see on the image below the intact component indeed shows only measurement noise. But the faulty component is superimposed by a kind of square wave signal with a frequency of approximately 80 Hz. When I spray cooling spray directly on the ADS1675 this behavior disappears, and I get normal measurement noise. But about 50 seconds later when the component has warmed up again, the strange behavior returns.

Is that a know issue of this component? Do you have any ideas where this behavior comes from?

 

We use the following configuration:

  • High speed mode (4000 kSPS)
  • Low latency filter with fast response
  • LVDS interface

  • Hello Soeren,

    I have never seen this kind of behavior with the ADS1675, but cooling the device suggests this may be an analog problem.

    Questions:

    1.  What is the ambient temperature of the device before spraying the device?  Is it near room temperature, or at an elevated temperature near the operating maximum?

    2.  The ADC dissipates about 0.5W when operating in high speed mode.  Do you have a good ground plane beneath the device to help conduct heat away from the package?

    3.  Are you using the recommended 7.5kOhm resistor for Rbias?  Can you confirm the correct value for this resistor?

    4.  Less likely; are the supply voltages maintained near the recommended typical values?  AVDD=5V and DVDD=3V?

    5.  Is it possible the voltage offset is due to the input amplifier and not the ADC?  This would depend on how close the input amplifier is relative to the ADS1675.

    Regards,
    Keith Nicholas
    Precision ADC Applications

  • Hello Keith,

    Thank you for your quick response.

    Concerning your questions:

    1. Unfortunately, I did not measure the temperature.
    2. We are cooling the device mainly via the top side. It is connected to a cooling block via a gap pad. This cooling block is tempered to 42°C (for temperature control of another component). Taking the thermal resistance into account, the temperature on the IC surface is certainly higher, but it should be well below the maximum rating. Is that an adequate solution or do you recommend cooling the device via the pins and ground plane?
    3. We use an 8.2kOhm resistor for Rbias. Could this small deviation already be a problem?
    4. Yes, AVDD is 5V and DVDD is 3V (designed and measured).
    5. We use the device on a rigid-flex PCB with 2 rigid parts, connected by a flex part. The ADS1675 is placed on one rigid part and the amplifier is placed on the other. The flex part is 70mm long. So the amplifier cannot have been affected by the cold spray.

    Regards,

    Soeren

  • Hello Soeren,

    I will provide answers tomorrow.

    Thanks,

    Keith

  • Hello Keith,

    I just analysed the 5V AVDD with an oscilloscope. Obviously this voltage is the problem. Here ist a screenshot:

    Probably the LDO (LP2992AIM5-5.0) is faulty or there is an unexpected behavior of any device powered by the LDO. Next week I will replace the LDO and see if this changes anything.

  • Hello Soeren,

    I think you found the source of the problem.  You may want to increase the capacitance on the AVDD supply to help with stability. 

    How much total capacitance do you have on the AVDD supply? I would use a minimum of 10uF located next to the LP2992, in addition to the recommended 10uF for AVDD directly next to the ADS1675 package.

    Regards,
    Keith

  • Hello Keith,

    I have a 10uF located next to the LP2992. And next to the ADS1675 I have this:

    This normally works fine.

    The strange thing is when I observe the AVDD of this faulty board on the oscilloscope, at first the AVDD voltage behaves normally, but then after a while all of a sudden the voltage looks like in the oscillogram above. The LP2992 has an overcurrent and overtemperature protection. May the protections is triggerd here for some reason. 

    Regards,

    Soeren

  • Hello Soeren,

    The ADS1675 AVDD current is about 70mA.  If you have other components powered from the 5V supply, then these will add to the total current.

    There is no over-temp specification for the LP2992 that I can find, but these are typically set around 170C.  Based on the thermal specs of the SOT23 (DBV) package, 1W of power dissipation in the LP2992 will likely cause over-temperature shutdown.  Assuming you have other loads on the AVDD 5V supply increasing total current load to 100mA, then a 15V input voltage would result in about 1W of power dissipation, which would be enough to put the regulator into over-temperature mode.

    Regards,
    Keith

  • Hello Keith,

    I finally found the reason.

    As I said before, we use the LP2992 to supply the ADS1675 with 5V AVDD. The input to the LP2992 is 5.5V, generated from a TPS82130. In between the is a ferrit bead. Apparently this causes a massive oscillation on the output of the TPS82130 at a certain temperature. As a result some LP2992 devices show the output in the oscillogram above. Other devices of the LP2992 "just" have a continues voltage drop of 0,3V, so the output is only 4,7V then.

    I replaced the ferrit bead with 0 ohm resistor and the oscillations are completly gone.

    Thank you for your help

    Regards,

    Soeren