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ADS5232EV Power Connections

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: ADS5232, ADS5231

Hi there,

We're currently trying to get a ADS5232 working using the ADS5332EVM evaluation board. The issue is that, despite connecting everything as suggested in the user guide, the 3.3V power supply seems to be a near short to ground. 

We have two boards, both connected as follows:

- 5V differential power supply: disconnected.

- 3.3V analog supply: connected to a bench supply channel A. 

- 3.3V output buffer supply: connected to bench supply channel B. 

- Clock input: connected to a square wave bench source. 

- Analog input A: grounded. 

- Analog input B: disconnected.

- Jumpers: All in their 'default' positions, as listed in the user guide Table 1. 

- Everything else: disconnected. 

On board #1, connecting the output buffer supply does not draw much/any current. Once the analog supply is connected, the bench supply goes into current limiting mode, shorting the power line. If I allow it, it will draw ~2A, the current rating of the power supply. 

On board #2, it's the opposite. Connecting the analog supply doesn't draw much, but connecting the output buffer supply draws ~800mA. Note that it doesn't draw more than 800mA if I turn the current limit higher than that.

In both cases the ADC chips get very hot if I allow the current to flow. 

I've checked for obvious assembly defects, solder shorts, etc., but I can't find any. It's possible there is a short under a chip or internal to the PCB. I did a 2-wire measurement of the terminal impedance:

(Analog terminals / Output buffer terminals)

Board 1: ~0.7Ohm / ~440Ohm.

Board 2: ~440Ohm / ~45MOhm.

On one hand, it seems quite clear that there is a short somewhere, at least on board#1. However, that doesn't explain why board #2 behaves like a short even though the impedance is so high. Perhaps I'm missing something really simple, since it seems unlikely to me that two boards would both have a manufacturing error of the same/similar kind. I would appreciate any help you guys have to offer in debugging this issue. 

  • Armand,

    I agree with you that this should be more of a setup issue rather than the board issue. The silicons are all tested at the production first and then the EVM PCB are tested again after assembly. The chances of both boards shorting are unlikely. 

    Here are my thoughts:

    1. leave analog input A, B, and clock input disconnected from all the signal sources just in case the signal sources are causing some sort of short.

    2. power up the ADC with the 3.3V bench supply. There are specific power up sequence recommendation on page 11 of the datasheet. Please try again with AVDD powered up first (chan A of power supply) and then VDRV (channel B of power supply).

    If the two steps still fail, I will double check the setup here to confirm.

    -Kang

  • Hi Kang, 

    Thanks for the reply. The behavior (of board#1) is precisely the same even if I have the board completely isolated with nothing but AVDD plugged in and a dedicated 3.3V supply. The really perplexing thing is that I get very similar behavior for board #2, except when powering VDRV (AVDD powers up fine). 

    Regarding the powerup sequence, that is the order I am applying power in. However, I have no good way of ensuring that the 10us < t1 < 50ms timing is enforced, since I'm using a bench power supply. Intuitively I wouldn't think this should be so extremely sensitive to that timing (to the point of shunting to ground if I don't have timing closure), and if it is the EVM should make allowances for that, or at least mention it in the user manual. As it stands it simply tells you to plug them in.

  • Hi,

    I just tested a ADS5231 EVM here and it powered up fine. I can send this EVM to  you for you to test out if you wish. If the EVM works fine, then please send back two other EVMs so we can replace them. If not, please double check your setup for potential shorts.

    3.3V AVDD = 74mA

    3.3V VDDOBUFFER = 25mA

    both analog input are disconnected from test equipment.

    CLK = 40MSPS CMOS

    output buffer disconnected from test equipment.

    I will PM you offline for address + tel #.

    -Kang

  • Hi Kang, 

    Thanks for the response. I wanted to make sure before we went about mailing each other anything. I seem to have been able to get my board#2 working with some careful grounding. However, my board #1 still shorts to ground no matter what. Perhaps it is in fact damaged, since the terminal impedance is <1Ohm. I will respond to your PM. 

    However, I have another (unrelated) question that I wanted to leave out in the public, since I haven't been able to find any documentation on it. The evaluation board is rated for 65MHz, but I can't find any info on the lower operational frequency. The ADC itself is capable of 2-65MHz, but the <20MHz range is only available via a user configurable register to disable the clock PLL. What is not mentioned anywhere is if the EVM has this PLL enabled, and thus a lower limit on the input clock of 20MHz.

    Intuitively I would expect that if the board is designed to be able to go up to 65MHz at the quoted performance levels, it would need PLL compensation, so it is enabled. Is this correct?

    Thanks.

  • Armand,

    The PLL of the ADS5232 is enabled by default (shown in table on page 10). In order to not use the PLL with input clock rate less than 20MSPS, you will need to enable the serial interface by setting SEL to 1 and write to the PLL register to disable the PLL.

    -Kang

  • Hi,

    I have a question relating to this thread.  In the data sheet it shows the part supports sampling ragtes 2-65MSPS.  If we are sampling on channels A & B simultaneous at 2MSPS, does this mean each channel if effectively sampling at 1MSPS?

  • Hi,

    No, if the sample rate is 2Msps, then each channel is sampling at 2Msps and the sample output is 2 Msps for each channel. 

    Regards,

    Richard P.