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ADS1299EEGFE-PDK: Single ended channels with feedback bias drive and reference electrode

Part Number: ADS1299EEGFE-PDK
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: ADS1299

Hello,

I am trying to setup a four channel eeg measurement device, I have connected the following :

As you can see i have connected only positive inputs to channel 1,2,3,5 and shown in blue and i have attached an electrode to JP25 2 for bias also shown in blue, and finally an electrode to AIN1 for reference in blue and  there respective pins as mentioned on the datasheet.

My problem is with setting the bits in the different registers, i powered down all unwanted channels, i set the SRB1 bit to high, and the rest to normal electrode mode, however i do not understand the SRB2 bit and the bias driver bits, and how it routes to the bias feedback voltage?

could you provide some insight ? on whether the setup is right or needs any tweaking and how to set the bits for SRB2 and bias driver circuit.

Many thanks

Karam Jaber E.E

  • Hi Karam,

    SRB1 connects to all inverting (N) channels, whereas SRB2 can be individually connected to each inverting (N) channel. Since you have SRB1 connected to all channels, you should be fine without using SRB2. Alternatively, you could disable the SRB1 connection and connect SRB2 for channels 1,2,3, & 5. 

    The bias driver bits are used to control the bias amplifier, there are several block diagrams in the datasheet, such as figure 33, that show how the voltage is routed. 

    Additionally please see the BIOFAQ for more information. In ECG, the BIAS is known as RLD (right leg drive): https://e2e.ti.com/support/data-converters/f/73/p/772058/2855202

  • Hello, Alex

    Thanks for your reply, the SRB bits are very clear now.

    i will connect AIN0 and that will be my reference electrode correct?

    and JP8 has a jumper across 1-2

    Further, yes, i understand the DRL principle but in the datasheet there is a BIAS_ELEC and a BIAS_DRV, if i choose the BIAS_DRV option which is a signal generated by the ADS1299 chip. The below image suggests to set the internal bias drive reference but in figure 39, BIASREF signal source is shown to be fed externally?.

    And per the datasheet if the configuration is Bias drive loop then the input channels will be biased and i will not need the JP25 pins anymore correct?

  • Hello, Alex

    Thanks for your reply, the SRB bits are very clear now.

    i will connect AIN0 and that will be my reference electrode correct?

    and JP8 has a jumper across 1-2

    Further, yes, i understand the DRL principle but in the datasheet there is a BIAS_ELEC and a BIAS_DRV, if i choose the BIAS_DRV option which is a signal generated by the ADS1299 chip. The below image suggests to set the internal bias drive reference but in figure 39, BIASREF signal source is shown to be fed externally?.

    And per the datasheet if the configuration is Bias drive loop then the input channels will be biased and i will not need the JP25 pins anymore correct?

  • Hi Karam,

    Happy to help! 

    Reading the datasheet for the ADS1299 device as well as the ADS1299EEG-PDK User's guide may help: http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/ads1299.pdf

    I'm not sure what you are referring to by AIN0, can you elaborate? Your reference electrode will connect to either SRB1 or SRB2. 

    This figure is confusing since it shows the bias buffer as being disabled. I'll make a note to have this changed. 

    Please see 9.6.1.4 CONFIG3: Configuration Register 3 (address = 03h) (reset = 60h) in the datasheet for clarification. The bias reference can either be fed mid-supply or supplied externally. This is showing that the reference is being driven externally by electrode 1 and 2. 

  • Hello, after putting a jumper between pin 5-6 on JP25 and setting the SRB1 bit to route all negative input of the channels i need to connect my reference electrode to SRB1 as you mentioned, is that AIN0 on the datasheet and the board ?

  • Hi Karam,

    That is actually AIN1, you can see it on pg 51 of the user's guide to the left, and it routes to all of the positive channels, whereas SRB1 routes to all negative channels. You can use this for your reference, but then you will want to route all of the other electrodes to the negative channels for 1,2,3 & 5 instead of the positive. 

    In terms of schematic, would recommend connecting your BIAS electrode to BIAS_DRV, not BIAS_ELEC. Please see page 50 of the user's guide for reference. 

  • Hello Alex,

    I have been straight debugging for 2 days, i know this should be simpler due to the extensive support and well-explained datasheet you and TI provide respectively,

    However, i haven't been able to get the desired result yet.

    I want to configure 4 single ended channel with a reference electrode and a bias drive/electrode without using any external circuitry just the board and the electrodes, if it is possible could you elaborate how ?

    and i am sure this could be very helpful for other people looking through the posts.

    i really appreciate the effort

    many thanks

    Karam Jaber E.E

  • Hi Karam,

    Let's try starting small from the BIOFAQ: https://e2e.ti.com/support/data-converters/f/73/p/775288/2868597#2868597

    Can you make it through all of the steps including reading from a known signal source? 

  • Dear alex,

    Yes. everything on the board works fine, all i need from you is some steps to setup  ANY configuration appropriate for EEG acquisition.

    i have read the datasheet so many times i know it by page.

    i have read the BIOFAQ over and over and still no luck.

    i tried different combinations for the different pins, different electrodes, different jumper settings.

    and i just checked the board right now and waiting for your reply asap.

    I have formally contacted TI personnel to help me, however they said they are not familiar with the product and they re-directed me to someone else which kept on happening until now. Which means there was no help over the phone lines.

    thanks for your understanding

  • Hello,

    I have attached pictures to make it very clear that everything on the board is indeed working,

    i have a function generator generating a sin wave at  hz 9 hz 22 hz connected to passive electrodes and the electrodes output to ADS1299EEG board  and with the appropriate attenuation from a multi-stage voltage division between two resistors removing the DC-offset with a capacitor.

    Please refer to my previous reply, what i need is simple steps to set up my electrode connections for appropriate EEG signal acquisition  

  • Hi Karam,

    Great to see that the board is working properly. 

    There are many ways to measure EEG, and it depends on what exactly you're trying to capture. If you are not sure where to place the electrodes, I recommend using a search engine to identify what signals you're interested in seeing. 

    You can set your reference electrode to be connected to SRB1. This will connect the reference voltage to all negative channels of the input PGAs. The measurement electrodes should be connected to the positive input channels of the device. This will measure the voltage difference between the measurement electrode and the reference electrode.