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ADS131M08: Can ADS131M08 be use for single-end input signal?

Part Number: ADS131M08
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: ADS1248, ADS1263

 Hello guys,

 One of my customers is considering using ADS131M08 for their new products.

 They have the following question about ADS131M08. Could you please give me your reply?

 Q. Can ADS131M08 be use for single-end input signal if each negative input pin is connected to GND?

 Your reply would be much appreciated.

 Best regards,

 Kazuya.

  • Kazuya-san,


    Yes, the ADS131M08 can be used for a single-ended input measurement with the negative input pin tied to ground. For this type of information, you would look at the Recommended Operating Conditions table on page 5 of the datasheet. Here is the section for analog inputs:

    This device has a negative charge pump that allows for input signals that go as low as 1.3V below ground. However, you can operate this device with the inputs going only from 0V to VREF. I would note that the ADCs are fully differential, so if the inputs are only positive values, then you would only get output data from 000000h to 7FFFFFh, which would be equivalent to 23 bits.


    Joseph Wu

  •  Hello Joseph,

     Thank you very much for your prompt reply.

     I understood that ADS131M08 can receive single-end signal but the data bit length is 23bit then.

     The customer needs 24bit data length with 8 channel single-end inputs and 1k SPS or more.

    Also they need PGA, SOI I/F, internal clock generator and internal reference.  But they don't need simultaneous sampling function.

     In these conditions, do you have any ADC device which can suits to these? Could you please tell me any device?

     Thank you and best regards,

     Kazuya.

     

  • Kazuya-san,


    I still think that the ADS131M08 is your best option. It has all of the functions you list, except for the 24-bit data length in single-ended measurement operation.

    I would point out that for 24-bit ADCs, the noise usually makes the performance about 20 bits. To get to 24 bits of noise performance, you need a reference that has incredibly low noise, and you generally need to run the device at extremely slow speeds. If your customer needs all 24-bits, they can run the device at 2x the desired speed and average 2 samples to get 24 bits.

    Out of curiosity, what is the application? This might help identify a different solution.


    Joseph Wu

  •  Hello Joseph,

     Thank you very much for your good advice.

     >If your customer needs all 24-bits, they can run the device at 2x the desired speed and average 2 samples to get 24 bits.

     I will tell them this your advice.

     They are checking ADS1248 datasheet because this device can be receive single-end signal with 24bit length.

     Could you please tell me what ADS131M08 advantage points against ADS1248 are?

     Their application is analog data input board of PLC (Programmable logic controller).

     The board is used for 8 input analog data (voltage) conversion.

     Thank you and best regards,

     Kazuya. 

  • Kazuya-san,


    The ADS1248 is a fine device, but it still has the same issue as the ADS131M08. The device uses a differential ADC and single-ended measurements (positive values) will still be reported with 23-bits. Additionally, when using the ADS1248 as a single supply (0 to 5V), the ground is not a valid input. Because the input has a PGA as a buffer, even in gain of 1, the lowest an input can go is 0.1V above the ground (AVSS). Lastly, there are 8 independent inputs that you can select as differential measurements for the ADC. That means that you would select one of them as the negative inputs and the remainder would be the measurements. In the end, you could only measure 7 single-ended inputs.

    One possible device you could recommend would be the ADS1263. It is a 32-bit ADC with multiple channels. Again, I think that the ADS131M08 would likely work in your customer's application, but I would need to know more about it.


    Joseph Wu

  •  Hello Joseph,

     Thank you very much for your reply.

     I could understand well what you say. I will recommend the customer to use ADS131M08.

     Thank you again and best regards,

     Kazuya Nakai.