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Specific Eval Target board for 3D NED design?

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: DLPA2005, TLV320DAC3101, DLP2010, DLP3010

Hello there,

   We're in the early stage of 3D NED see-thru smart glasses development, I wonder if

anyone of you can provide me some advise how to select the DLP eval target board for

this type of design? I assume there on-board to be two sets of DLP/LED target chips 

perhaps combined or separate controller chip(s)? your advice is highly appreciated

and thanks a lot in advance

-liyen-

  • Hello Liyen,

    We have two EVMs which can fit your application. It is highly depending on your application meaning what resolution, current and lumens you need to implement.

    I would suggest that you take a look at our two EVMs and let me know which one would meet your requirements and we will go from there.

    Both EVMs contain a DLP Display Controller Chip and the DLPA2005 PMIC/LED Driver on-board.

    Thank you,

    Nadine

  • Hello Nadine,

        Thank you so much for the pointer, as matter of fact, I've seen both eval targets on TI DLP websites,

    but I wonder what are the reasons that you specifically think these two could be good candidates for

    3D NED projection design? I'd said that I prefer 3010 at this moment because the supported resolution

    matches our goal, but depends on main app media processor's cap to crunch A/V data, I may have to

    downgrade to lower resolution later.  BTW, since our app is A/V media oriented, I wonder if the main

    DLP processor can handle certain level of computation tasks like real time ANC? and please correct

    me if this is wrong, the target is powered thru USB connection?  Much appreciated again...

    -liyen-

  • Hello Liyen,

    I would like to refer you to one of our white papers "DLP Technology for Near Eye Display (NED)" which gives a full description of why our chipsets are a good match for NED. Both EVMs are powered with a 5V power supply. The USB port is for the GUI communication.

    Our DLP controller processes in real time with 60 frames per second for the DLP3010EVM and the DLP2010EVM but the controller is capable of handling frame rates in a range of 10 to 123 Hz.

    Please let me know if you have any further questions.

    Best regards,

    Nadine

     

     

     

  • Hello Nadine,

       Much appreciated for quick reply, it is our first project effort to address wearable type of 3D gadget so I quite

    serious stressed on 3D feature, indeed the white paper you referred was the very first doc I went thru to gain

    knowledge about DLP tech, however, it doesn't emphasis on 3D but various types of DLP applications on NED,

    since I presume there to be two set of DMD/LED sources to cope with the stereo views of an image frame, I

    wonder if there such specific DLP controller which can handle two sets simultaneously, that shall be very

    cost effective for our goal, could you pleae point me  somewhere that I can find more specfic info of 3D DLP

    design? On the other hand, I wonder if such DLP controller having extra processing power to address some

    generic tasks, such like noise reduction as I saw there're audio links on both 3010 and 2010 EVM, what kind

    of audio interface are there and do I have flexibility upon sampling rate? I merely need very low, such like 2 kHz

    sampled stereo audio,  finally, what kind of development platform is for these DLP target? more or less linux

    flavor or simply TI specific?  thanks again

    -liyen-

  • Hello Liyen,

    On our 3010 and 2010 EVM we are using the Low-Power Stereo Audio DAC With Audio Processing and Stereo Class-D Speaker Amplifier TLV320DAC3101 chip. It has a sample rate of 8kHz to 192kHz. The audio is coming from our front-end chip the ITE6801 and is not controlled by our DLP controller. You are not required to use this front-end chip and audio amplifier. The 3010 and 2010 EVMs are only reference designs which can be adjusted for your application. I also want to point out that we don’t have an EVM specific for NED. The 3010 and 2010 EVMs provide an opportunity to check-out our chipset and get familiarized with it, which makes it easier to get started. For your NED application you will probably end upt with having your own design and optical engine.

    For our DLP chipset we have our TI development platform so called DLP composer. To be able to use it you have to sign TI’s NDA and SLA.

    For 3D you will find some information in our DLP controller datasheet the main requirements are 120 Hz and the 3D source has to be frame sequential.

    If you want, we can set up a phone call for tomorrow and go into more details.

    Please let me know if that would work for you.

    Best regards,

    Nadine

  • Hello Nadine,

       Thank you so much for reply, it will be good to chat a little bit more on details, however,

    we started this effort just a few month ago, which came my crazy idea to try something

    new, I don't have clear view of how to port DLP design onto a smart glass and 3D view

    is one most crucial feature that we want to create, so if possible could you please share

    any pointers that can help on this matter?  after all, I still would like to know if I can use

    DLP controller to do certain level of audio signal process?  I'll contact you again asap

    once I am ready to talk more over the phone, thanks a lot again

    -liyen-

  • Hello Nadine,

       One more very specific question, we are very critical on target dimension, may you provide 

    us the exact dimension of each board, lightcraft display, light engine and main ctrl board

    for each, 3010 and 2010? please, thanks

    -liyen-

  • Hello Liyen, 

    For now we believe that the reference design, the white paper and the EVM are the best possible documents we can provide to give you a successful start. For more specifics we need to have a better understanding of your application to be able to provide you with the best support. We have design houses that will support customized optics development for NED and we are more than happy to make a connection when you are ready.

    For customer who are new to DLP we highly recommend to start with one of our reference designs to familiarize themselves with the technology and the features. Please keep in mind that these reference designs are not designed for the smallest form factor. The focus on our EVMs is to show the chipset and provide easy access to it. Furthermore the optical engine is not designed for NED which requires an own design on your side.

    The main board has a size of 4.3 inch x 2.6 inch. The DLP display board has a size of 2.4i nch x 2.1 inch. The engine size for the DLP2010 is 30.6 mm x 29.55 mm. The optical engine for DLP3010 has a size of 80.35 mm x 56.97mm. The drawing for both engines can be found in the EVM User's Guide.  

    As I already mentioned above our DLP controller only supports video no audio. The audio is coming from our front-end chip.

    Please let me know if you have any further questions.

    Best regards,

    Nadine