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TPD4E004: Samples Availability

Part Number: TPD4E004
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TPD4S012, TPD4E110, MCF8329RRYEVM, MCF8329EVM

Tool/software:

Hi team,

I see that samples are not available for this device on ti.com. When can samples be expected to be available again?

  • Hi Joshua,

    This device is part of our Redbull 1.0 initiative, which has 10yrs worth of inventory stocked up and will issue an EOL notice when this inventory has depleted to a specific value (I don't remember what exact value). Since the capability to make more devices like this are limited to impossible, I believe the sample availability was changed to reflect this.

    We have this device in other packages, would these be of interest to your customer?

    Please let me know if you have any questions!

    Best Regards,

    Josh Prushing

  • Hi Josh,

    I placed an order for some EVMs which included this part, unless you have a drop-in replacement for this device can I get at least 85 TPD4E004 units for my build?

    Are there pin-to-pin solutions which I could take a look at for future EVM builds? If not, could you link a package variant which is most similar?

    Regards,

    Joshua

  • Hi Joshua,

    I have 3 things to note here:

    • I am reaching out to our PM team to understand who determines sample availability, as when I double checked, some other devices featured in Redbull 1.0 had samples available... It might take me some time to nail down why samples aren't available so please give me some time on this.
    • P2P options:
      • TPD4S012 - Same package, 4 channel different pin layout. Superior specs
      • TPD4S009 - Same package, 4 channel different pin layout. Worse clamping voltage, better cap
      • TPD2E001 - Same package, 2 channel different pin layout
      • TPD3E001 - Same package, 3 channel different pin layout
      • So it really seems like this device is truly single sourced (among TI alternates). Is there a specific reason this device was chosen in the first place? You mentioned you placed an order for an EVM using this device, which EVM was that?
    • Non p2p similar solutions:
      • TPD4S012 has 3 IO pins and one VCC pin (one less IO pin than TPD4E004), but has superior specs and is the same size package (1.45mm x 1.00mm). Seems like maybe a decent future option if this package size is fixed, but the pin layout can change
      • TPD4E110 has 4 IO pins and no VCC pin, has similar specifications to TPD4E004 but is in a smaller package (0.8mm x 0.8mm). If there is a need for the 4 IO pins, but the VCC pin is not needed, this would be the best option.
      • Outside of these devices, there doesn't really seems to be a great comparison without increasing package size. 

    If you have any information on the requirements for your system (ie, is <=1.6pF cap needed? Are 5 total channels needed?), this would be helpful for me to understand to list all available options.

    Best Regards,

    Josh Prushing

  • Hi Josh,

    It might take me some time to nail down why samples aren't available so please give me some time on this.

    Sure, no problem.

    P2P options:

    I will keep these selections in mind, based on the section you provided it seems we will have to re-work the boards in the future. 

    You mentioned you placed an order for an EVM using this device, which EVM was that?

    The order was for the MCF8329RRYEVM which is very similar to the released MCF8329EVM.

    As to why the device was chosen over other similar solutions, I am not too sure, we have been re-using the same USB communication section for our EVMs for a couple of years now.

    If you have any information on the requirements for your system (ie, is <=1.6pF cap needed? Are 5 total channels needed?), this would be helpful for me to understand to list all available options.

    We are using this part in-between a USB-C mini connector and a FT232RNL. we only use 3 of the IO pins:

    Regards,

    Joshua

  • Hi Joshua,

    I am still waiting on feedback on sample availability.

    For future revisions, I recommend checking our USB Protection App Note for up-to-date options for USB-C protection.

    Best Regards,

    Josh Prushing

  • Hi Josh,

    Thanks for the app note, I will use this and your recommendations to determine which device to use in future builds.

    I will send you an email to follow up on the samples availability.

    Regards,

    Joshua