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SN65HVD3086E: Pull-up/down value on D, DE and RE pins

Genius 16135 points
Part Number: SN65HVD3086E

Hello,

 

I have some questions for SN65HVD3086.

 

1)

The datasheet specifies input current of D and DE is -100 ~ 100uA.

According to Figure 21 on P13 of the datasheet, D had 50KOhm internal pull-up and DE had 50Kohm internal pull-down.

So I think this specification is actually like the below.

 

 

MIN

MAX

Input current, D

-100uA (due to 50Kohm pull-up)

 

Input current, DE

 

100uA (due to 50Kohm pull-down)

 

2)

Both D and DE pins have internally a zenor diode and a clamp diode between GND and the pins.

Is leakage current of these diodes enough small so that it can be ignored and it doesn’t affect the above input current?

 

3)

If 1) and 2) are YES, I guess the below is the input voltage condition for each pins.

Is this my understanding correct?

For D case, is VCC 5.5V or 5V?

For DE case, is DE input voltage of this condition 5.5V, 5V or other?

 

 

Input voltage condition

MIN

MAX

Input current, D

D=0, VCC=5V or 5.5V?

-100uA (due to 50Kohm pull-up)

 

Input current, DE

DE=5.5V or 5V?

 

100uA (due to 50Kohm pull-down)

 

4)

I would like to know MIN and MAX value for these internal 50Kohm pull-up and pull-down

If 3) is YES,

MIN of internal pull-up on D and pull-down on DE should be 5.5/100u = 55Kohm or 5V/100u = 50Kohm.

Is this correct? And What is the MAX value?

 

5)

This is related to 2). Could you tell me leakage current value of these diodes?

 

6)

The below is from "RECEIVER ELECTRICAL CHARACTERISTICS" in the datasheet.

  

Test condition says that VIH=2V and VIL=0.8V.

Do these condition mean RE input voltage is 2V and 0.8V in these cases?

Regards,
Oba 

  • Oba,

    These are very good questions. For 1) and 2), your understanding is correct. The logic pin current mainly comes through the resistors. The diode leakage is negligible. The current value is guaranteed over all process, temperature and voltage variations. I think the typical resistor is much bigger than 50k, maybe close hundreds of kilo Ohms. These resistor value could vary a lot in silicon. I think you can take 55k as the min. However I could not find the data at the max side. Again, the diode leakage is negligible. When the voltage is within the operation region, the diode should not be turned on. The receive input current is characterized at 2V and 0.8V. However the logic pins should share the same design.  

    Regards,

    Hao