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So many choices......Launchxl or 8312 ?

David Hackenbracht1
Expert 1410 points
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: DRV8301, DRV8312, MOTORWARE, TMDSCNCD28035ISO, TMDSCNCD28069ISO, CONTROLSUITE, INSTASPIN-BLDC, TMDSCNCD28027F, DRV8302, DRV8301-69M-KIT, BOOSTXL-DRV8301, LAUNCHXL-F28027F, LAUNCHXL-F28027, TMDSCNCD28069

Background Info:             We purchased the 8301-c2 kit, and it works fine. We will be using brushless, steppers and the like to test. Great but we need more p o w e r. Some where 12 amps would be nice.

The forum advised board Motor Drive BoosterPack featuring DRV8301 and NexFET™ MOSFET for the more current issue, and looks good. BUT..... that board uses a different board ,the Piccolo LAUNCHXL-F28027F, which is ok.

My question is:

If we change to the boards LAUNCH-F28027F-BOOST-DRV8301:
InstaSPIN-FOC LaunchPad and DRV8301 BoosterPack Bundle and the LAUNCHXL-F28027F: InstaSPIN™-FOC enabled C2000 Piccolo LaunchPad can we still work with brushless, steppers, and PMDC motors with extra current or have we changed the ballgame? Personally, it looks like we can, but so many choices......

Much Thanks for everyone's help.

David

  • 0
    TI__Mastermind 22025 points

    David,

    As best I can tell the kit you already have will do 60V at 80A:

    http://www.ti.com/tool/drv8301-hc-c2-kit

    The Launchpad and Boosterpack combo is great low cost solution if you need more developments kits for engineers to work on.  It has the InstaSpin-FOC software in ROM.  It should be able to do everything your current kit can do as well as InstaSpin-FOC.  If you have motor control software already written it should easily port to this kit as well.

    BR,

  • 0 in reply to Trey German289
    Expert 1410 points

    I didn't realize it was so high, that's cool.

    That answers one question, but can I use it to drive BLDC's, steppers, PMDC's and the like?

    The "Three Phase" thing makes me think it is out of my League with the semi small stuff.

    And how about those Motor Ware Labs, can I do those as well?

    Much Thanks,

    David

  • 0 in reply to David Hackenbracht1
    TI__Mastermind 22025 points

    David,

    Actually, hold on....you mention two different kits...the DRV8312 and the DRV8301.  The DRV8312 will only do 2-3A while the DRV8301 will do the high currents I mentioned above.  Both have roughly the same output topology so anything you can spin with your current kit you should be able to spin with the LaunchPad kit (as long as currents and voltages are within reason).

    Yes, you can do most of the motorware labs on the LaunchPad kit.  There is a table in one of the PDFs which shows which labs will run on which boards.

    BR,

  • 0 in reply to Trey German289
    Expert 1410 points

    BR,

    So now I'm wondering do I need the motor kit DRV8301 AND the Motor Drive BoosterPack ?

    I saw the chart too, but later on it tells you have to have IC number so and so or you can't do the labs.

    Thanks a-lot for your help, I've only been on the job a week and now I have to tell them they have the wrong kit and spend some more money. See why I'm asking so many questions? Yes, this is my second week but I'd like for it
     to last a little longer. :)

    Thanks,

    David

  • 0 in reply to David Hackenbracht1
    TI__Mastermind 22025 points

    David,

    Which kit do you actually have?  If you have the DRV8301-C2-Kit you should be fine.

    All of the motorware stuff that I know of uses the special InstaSpin code in ROM.  This is why its referring to specific IC numbers.  If you aren't doing InstaSpin-FOC or InstaSpin-MOTION you don't particularly need a specific piece of silicon.  The only exception to that is if you need floating point, in which case you'll need the F2806x parts.

    If you can tell me the example projects you're currently working with I can tell you whether they will work or not on the Launchpad kit.

    Best Regards,

  • 0 in reply to Trey German289
    Expert 1410 points

    Trey,

    No, we have the DRV8312-C2.           We were actually going to use InstaSpin and attempt to attach it to the (hopefully, Global variables and use the GUI) GUI composer for control. I was trying to learn about motorware, InstaSpin, and composer GUI when I found out the labs in motorware had problems, AKA no room on IC (ROM). Don't think we'll need floating point.

    I would like to do the labs found in Motor Ware, "InstaSPIN Projects and Labs User’s Guide" Ver. 1  I have read where you all are updating Composer GUI, any word on that? Do you have anything extra I can read on the GUI, it's a little sparse in that area, another reason I was wanting to do the labs. They work with the GUI.

     

    Much Thanks, you did a great job, Thanks for the help.

     

    David

     

  • 0 in reply to David Hackenbracht1
    Expert 1410 points

    Yet, another question: I havn't found what kind of power supply is used?

    Is the microprocessor regulated on board if we supply 12 volts?

     

    If we get this kit, above questions.

    Three Phase BLDC & PMSM Motor Kit with DRV8301 and InstaSPIN-enabled Piccolo TMS320F28069M MCU

    Thanks,

     

    David

  • 0 in reply to David Hackenbracht1
    TI__Guru** 119590 points

    David,

    Let's start over.

    We have three main low voltage 3-ph inverter platforms that support different power levels

    • DRV8312 EVM: 50V/3.5A continuous
    • DRV8301 EVM: 60V/40A or 60V/60A (depending on if you use current sense that amplfies through external circuit or internal to DRV8301 circuit)
    • DRV8301 BoosterPack: 24V/10A

    These are "kitted" in combination with various controller platforms & software examples. If you have one of the kits but want to try the other kit's capabilities, just purchase the other CNCD separately.

    • DRV8312
      • DRV8312-C2-KIT
        • Includes TMDSCNCD28035ISO
          • TMDSCNCD28069ISO also supported
        • SW support through controlSUITE
          • sensored: HALL BLDC
          • sensorless: Bemf ZC BLDC, InstaSPIN-BLDC, SMO FOC projects
      • DRV8312-69M-KIT
        • Includes TMDSCNCD28069MISO
          • TMDSCNCD28027F + emulator also supported
        • SW support through MotorWare
          • sensored: Encoder FOC with InstaSPIN-MOTION (position or velocity)
          • sensorless: FAST based InstaSPIN-FOC or InstaSPIN-MOTION (velocity or torque)
          • MOTION projects only with 69M card; FOC projects with 69M or 27F card
    • DRV8301
    • DRV8301-HC-C2-KIT (there is also a DRV8302 version of this kit)
      • Includes TMDSCNCD28035ISO
        • TMDSCNCD28069ISO also supported
      • SW support through controlSUITE
        • sensorless: InstaSPIN-BLDC, SMO FOC
    • DRV8301-69M-KIT
      • Includes TMDSCNCD28069MISO
        • TMDSCNCD28027F + emulator also supported
      • SW support through MotorWare
        • sensored: Encoder FOC with InstaSPIN-MOTION (position or velocity)
        • sensorless: FAST based InstaSPIN-FOC or InstaSPIN-MOTION (velocity or torque)
        • MOTION projects only with 69M card; FOC projects with 69M or 27F card
    • BOOSTXL-DRV8301
    • LAUNCHXL-F28027F purchase separately
    • SW support through MotorWare
      • sensorless: FAST based InstaSPIN-FOC
    • Companies like The Mathworks are also using the standard LAUNCHXL-F28027 for non-InstaSPIN motor control development
    • We will have additional LaunchPads this year for InstaSPIN and non-InstaSPIN development

     

    These inverters support three phase topologies.  The SW determines which motor types, feedback, control loops, and switching techniques are supported.

    Have fun.

     

     

  • 0 in reply to ChrisClearman
    Prodigy 50 points

    Dear Chris,

    Many thanks for the exhaustive information. I have still some questions:

    What is the difference between ISO and MISO version of TMDSCNCD28069?

    I'm having DRV8301-LS12-KIT. It contains DRV8301-HC-EVM rev D. Can I use it with TMDSCNCD28069ISO?

  • 0 in reply to Seppo Rantala
    TI__Guru** 119590 points

    Seppo Rantala said:
    What is the difference between ISO and MISO version of TMDSCNCD28069?

    The MISO has on-chip ROM libraries to support InstaSPIN-FOC and InstaSPIN-MOTION using MotorWare. Yes, it works with the DRV8301 Rev D EVM.

    The ISO card is supported through standard motor control examples in controlSUITE

     

  • 0 in reply to ChrisClearman
    Prodigy 50 points

    Thanks Chris. That helped a lot.

    By the way I tried to install controlSUITE with the Web (EXE) Installer. f2802x_v125.cab was missing. The offline installer worked fine.