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TMS320F28379D: High-resolution period control seems to delay shadow-to-active CMPA value transfer

Pierre Bouchet1
Expert 2585 points
Part Number: TMS320F28379D
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: C2000WARE

Hello everyone,

I see a strange behaviour on an ePWM when high-resolution period control is enabled. I don't need to actually use TBPRDHR or CMPAHR to see this behaviour, just setting the HRPCTL[HRPE] bit is enough to make it appear.

I have a very simple program which configures EPWM8 for up-down high-resolution period/duty control with TBPRD = 180, then switches between CMPA = 36 and CMPA = 144 in a loop.

Here is the code:

_eallow();
	ClkCfgRegs.PERCLKDIVSEL.bit.EPWMCLKDIV = 1;
	CpuSysRegs.PCLKCR0.bit.TBCLKSYNC = 0;
	CpuSysRegs.PCLKCR2.bit.EPWM1 = 1;
	CpuSysRegs.PCLKCR2.bit.EPWM8 = 1;
	CpuSysRegs.PCLKCR0.bit.HRPWM = 1;

	EPwm8Regs.TBCTL.bit.CLKDIV = TB_DIV1;
	EPwm8Regs.TBCTL.bit.HSPCLKDIV = TB_DIV1;
	EPwm8Regs.TBCTL.bit.CTRMODE = TB_COUNT_UPDOWN;
	EPwm8Regs.TBCTL.bit.PRDLD = TB_SHADOW;
	EPwm8Regs.TBCTL.bit.PHSEN = TB_ENABLE;

	EPwm8Regs.CMPCTL.bit.LOADAMODE = CC_CTR_ZERO_PRD;
	EPwm8Regs.CMPCTL.bit.SHDWAMODE = CC_SHADOW;
	EPwm8Regs.AQCTLA.bit.CAD = AQ_SET;
	EPwm8Regs.AQCTLA.bit.CAU = AQ_CLEAR;
	EPwm8Regs.TBPRD = 180;
	EPwm8Regs.CMPA.all = 18;

	EPwm8Regs.HRCNFG.bit.EDGMODE = HR_BEP;
	EPwm8Regs.HRCNFG.bit.CTLMODE = HR_CMP;
	EPwm8Regs.HRCNFG.bit.HRLOAD = HR_CTR_ZERO_PRD;
	EPwm8Regs.HRCNFG.bit.AUTOCONV = 1;
	EPwm8Regs.HRPCTL.bit.HRPE = 1;
	EPwm8Regs.HRPCTL.bit.TBPHSHRLOADE = 1;

	CpuSysRegs.PCLKCR0.bit.TBCLKSYNC = 1;
	EPwm8Regs.TBCTL.bit.SWFSYNC = 1;
	__edis();

	while (SFO() != SFO_COMPLETE);

	__eallow();
	GpioCtrlRegs.GPCDIR.bit.GPIO86 = 1;
	GpioCtrlRegs.GPCDIR.bit.GPIO87 = 1;
	GpioCtrlRegs.GPAMUX1.bit.GPIO14 = 1;
	__edis();

	for (;;) {
		/* Pulse on GPIO86 when setting CMPA to small value */
		GpioDataRegs.GPCSET.bit.GPIO86 = 1;
		__asm(" RPT #50 || NOP");
		EPwm8Regs.CMPA.bit.CMPA = 18;
		GpioDataRegs.GPCCLEAR.bit.GPIO86 = 1;

		DELAY_US(10);
		while (EPwm8Regs.TBSTS.bit.CTRDIR != 1);

		/* Pulse on GPIO87 when setting CMPA to big value */
		GpioDataRegs.GPCSET.bit.GPIO87 = 1;
		__asm(" RPT #50 || NOP");
		EPwm8Regs.CMPA.bit.CMPA = 162;
		GpioDataRegs.GPCCLEAR.bit.GPIO87 = 1;

		DELAY_US(10);
		while (EPwm8Regs.TBSTS.bit.CTRDIR != 1);
	}

Here is a picture of the result:

Here is the same picture zoomed in and annotated by myself:

However if I leave HRPE disabled the problem disappears and everything goes as expected.

Can someone from TI reproduce the problem using the code I provided? Is there an explanation for this behaviour?

Cheers,

Pierre

Pierre

  • 0
    TI__Guru 52030 points
    Can you zip a CCS project and share it so I can have the same configs as you?
  • 0 in reply to Nima Eskandari
    Expert 2585 points

    Hello Nima,

    Please find attached the smallest CCS project I could put together to show the problem.

    I run it on a TMS320F28379D controlCard but I guess it would work the same on a LaunchPad since I clock the CPU using the internal oscillator.

    Please let me know as soon as possible if you manage to reproduce the problem, this is a critical issue for my project. 

    Kind regards,

    Pierre

    HRPE_ACTIVE_DELAY.zip

  • 0 in reply to Nima Eskandari
    Expert 2585 points
    Hello Nima,

    Have you successfully reproduced the anomaly?

    Regards,
    Pierre
  • 0 in reply to Pierre Bouchet1
    TI__Guru 52030 points
    Pierre,

    I did recreate and I do see what you mentioned above. However, once again Pierre, you question is way too hard for me to answer so I'll have to go down the chain of our ePWM experts to come back with an answer.

    I'm going to notify them of this question and I'm sure they will get back to me soon.

    Nima
  • 0 in reply to Nima Eskandari
    Expert 2585 points

    Hello Nima,

    Thanks for your answer.

    I'm looking forward to solving this issue. This delay creates the equivalent of a digital low-pass filter in my control system (with transfer function (1 + z^-1)/2 ) and it will decrease the performance of the system.

    Regards,

    Pierre

  • 0 in reply to Nima Eskandari
    Expert 2585 points
    Hello Nima,

    My question is now two weeks old, so I was wondering if you had made any progress investigating the issue I explained with the help of your ePWM experts?

    Cheers,
    Pierre
  • 0 in reply to Pierre Bouchet1
    TI__Guru 52030 points
    You have explained the issue very clearly Pierre. I am still awaiting the response from the designers.
  • 0 in reply to Nima Eskandari
    TI__Guru 52030 points

    Pierre,

    The response I got from the team was different from your findings. With HRPE = 0,  There still seems to be the same issue.

     do you have any idea what could be causing this?

  • 0 in reply to Nima Eskandari
    TI__Guru 52030 points
    It appears you can remove all HRPWM code and the issue continues to occur.
  • 0 in reply to Nima Eskandari
    TI__Guru 52030 points

    e2e_epwm_overclocked_fixed.zip

    Okay I just checked and you are running EPWM at 180MHz... The maximum frequency for the EPWM clock is 100MHz on this device.

    I have an identical example with the same settings as you with EPWM6 and it works fine when the EPWM clock is 100MHz. I stripped out all of the HRPWM code and the issue was always there, Then I created my own project with the clocks running off of crystal and system set to 200MHz and EPWM set to 100MHz, same exact code works. 

    Nima Eskandari

  • 0 in reply to Nima Eskandari
    Expert 2585 points
    Nima,

    Thanks for coming up with this answer. I’ll be able to perform new tests on Monday.

    However I think it might not be that simple.

    The period on my oscilloscope is 4us and TBPRD is 180.

    On your oscilloscope capture too the period is 4us.

    180*2/4e-6 = 90MHz

    If the ePWM was overclocked the period of the pulses with TBPRD=180 would be 2us.

    Therefore the physical timings contradict your explanation.

    Is there something wrong with my calculation? Apologies if it’s the case.

    Regards,
    Pierre
  • 0 in reply to Nima Eskandari
    Expert 2585 points

    Hello Nima,

    I have several issues with your answer and the project you sent. Please see below:

    1. Non-portable projects are inconvenient

    The project I sent you is self-contained project so that you only need to compile it and run it. My code uses the internal oscillator so that it works the same regardless of the crystal frequency (which is 20MHz on the controlCard and 10MHz on the LaunchPad).

    The project you sent me, on the other hand, has dependencies on external libraries and it doesn't compile because it has the path to C2000Ware from your machine hardcoded in it. This is impractical so from now on can we agree to stick to portable projects with no dependencies to external files?

    2. My issue is still present in the project you sent

    After manually resolving the path to every C2000Ware file I ran your project. If I uncomment the configuration of the HRPWM the issue appear exactly as I described it. Therefore I suspect that the issue you recreated is not exactly the same one I had.

    1. Your scope picture shows 5 transitions between the two values of CMPA but the issue appears only once. This does not match with the issue I described, where I see a pulse with the wrong width on every single transition. 
    2. I double-checked over and over again and I'm sorry to say that on my setup the issue does disappear with HRPE = 0. It does have an influence and if your setup behaves differently then maybe it's because you're seeing a different problem.
    3. You explained the problem comes from the EPWM being overclocked but experimental results contradict this (refer to my previous answer ; 180*2/4e-6 = 90MHz). Please tell me which registers have the wrong configuration according to you; I checked the ones I'm aware of and they all seem to have the right configuration (PERCLKDIVSEL[EPWMCLKDIV] / TBCTL[CLKDIV] / TBCTL[HSPCLKDIV]) and I also checked the PLL configuration.
    4. I have investigated the matter of EPWM clocking and I found that the issue remains exactly the same even if I set the system clock to 2/3 of the initial value I used. That means the CPU is running at 120MHz and the ePWM at 60MHz.

    4. Additional information

    Since we have different results running the same code I think we need to pay attention to non-code things. Here is the information I can think about:

    • PARTIDH is 0x00F90300 // PARTIDL is 0x10077F80
    • I have made the same observation running the code on a F2837x controlCard R1.3 and on a LaunchPad XL with an F28379D
    • My compiler version is 18.1.3.LTS. I have attached the COFF file generated from my project. Maybe you can load it to your board and see if you observe the anomaly?
    • 0434.HRPE_ACTIVE_DELAY.zip

    Thank you for your help. I hope we'll be able to find what's wrong with my code or my setup.

    Cheers,

    Pierre

  • 0 in reply to Pierre Bouchet1
    TI__Guru 52030 points

    Pierre,

    Again thank you for your patience.

    1. Porting My C2000WARE project

    The project I sent to you should be easily ported to your CCS. Everything is linked, and all you would need to do to  make sure it can run on your setup is change a the paths in the Project Properties. If you are resolving each file manually, that is NOT the way to go.

    I can now see EXACTLY what you were saying on my Control Card.

  • 0 in reply to Nima Eskandari
    TI__Guru 52030 points

    Pierre,

    I believe I finally have the solution and explanation for your problem. I’m going to try it out on my control card and post it for you.

    Nima Eskandari

  • 0 in reply to Nima Eskandari
    Expert 2585 points

    Nima,

    I'm glad to hear it.

    In case it helps, I have noticed that the PWM behaves as expected if the pulses are centered on the CTR=PRD event instead of the CTR=ZRO event (i.e rising edge on CAU, falling edge on CAD and write to CMPA shadow when the counter starts counting down). I don't know how high-resolution period control works internally but maybe it processes the two events differently in HRP mode?

    Cheers,

    Pierre

  • 0 in reply to Pierre Bouchet1
    TI__Guru 52030 points

    Well seems like you beat me to it. But here is the full explanation.

    When using HR mode with UP-DOWN timer mode, you must set the load mode for your shadow registers to be PRD AND ZERO. But in HR mode this does not mean your shadow register gets updated on both PRD and ZERO. It actually only gets updated on ZERO. This is what I was not aware of and seems to be the answer to your solution. When using HR mode in UP/DOWN you want to always center the Pulse around PRD because that is what the HR mode internally will try to do.

    The reason you set shadow load mode to PRD and ZERO is internally there is another shadow of the register (double shadow) which will get updated. The user has no control over this. The user's shadow register will only get updated on ZERO and the pulses should always center around PRD.

    As always thank you Pierre for you question and your patience. Digging into this actually helped me understand the HR mode more deeply as well.

    Nima Eskandari

  • 0 in reply to Nima Eskandari
    Expert 2585 points
    Hello Nima,

    Thank you for the explanation. There is one detail I'm not sure about: the issue I described is with pulses centered on ZERO, so are you sure the HR mode internally centers them around ZERO and not around PRD ?

    Anyway I feel this should be explained in the TRM in some way.

    I have a follow-up question considering what you explained. I have a 2-phase converter with phase 1 controlled by EPWM8A and phase 2 controlled by EPWM8B. Therefore I have no choice but have one phase with pulses centered around CTR=ZRO and the other phase with pulses centered around CTR=PRD.

    Does this mean there is no way for the HRPWM to work properly on both phases at the same time?

    Cheers,
    Pierre
  • 0 in reply to Pierre Bouchet1
    TI__Guru 52030 points

    Yes yes, sorry. Loads on ZERO, centers around PRD.

    I do write the TRM section for ePWM  and I am going to add this description to the TRM.

    Also, knowing the limmitation that in HR Mode it only loads shadow registers on ZERO, the UP-DOWN mode wont work the way you want it to.

    So I think you can implement this using UP-Mode and doing all the HR calculations in your software. 

    what we can do is close this thread, open a new thread and ask this question. Then we can both work to see if we can do all the calculations in the PWM-ISR and change the Action qualifiers and CMPAHR to get it to center around both PRD and ZERO.