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Wolverine



Hello TI,

Is there a timetable for the MSP430FR58xx devices?

Will any have a USB I/F?  

Really love the FRAM - it's a game changer in my opinion.

Thanks,
john w. 

  • Hello TI,

    I am waiting for Wolverine too!

    Aside from the FRAM, the peripherals are nice too. But I am slightly disappointed that MPULOCK bit in MPU is now deleted.

    August 2012 is almost  gone, any update?

    -- OCY

  • The *.h and the *.xcl files of RF5969 FR5969 show that there are (a) 63 KB of FRAM, (b) 2 KB of RAM, (c) ADC12, (d) MPULOCK bit in MPU is back, (e) Cap Sense and other small changes in other peripherals.

    All these seem to be consistent with what we heard about the LaunchPad-like-demo back in March.

  • Thanks OCY.

    TI - any news in the Wolverine ballpark?

  • Wow sweet!  A little confused about the packages though-- a 48VQFN, but 100LQFP?  (the datasheet document doesn't show the breakout of the 100LQFP either)

    Regardless, good information available (and SLAU367 for the FR58xx and FR59xx user's guide -- http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/slau367/slau367.pdf )

  • Thanks for the pointer to slau367.

    Be careful with these: the CS peripheral on the 58xx/59xx devices is a CS_A peripheral, not a CS peripheral, though that is not made clear by the user's guide (other peripherals are also slightly different from previous versions, but it looks like the name differences give you a clue for everything but CS).   Among other changes, the layout of CSCTL1 in CS_A is significantly different from CS: DCORSEL is a different bit, and DCOFSEL has 3 bits instead of 2.  The clock speed will not be what you expect if you program it using a FR57xx (CS) register configuration.

    The XT1/XT2-related named constants in the header have been renamed to LFXT/HFXT, so you may have to modify source code too.

  • Leo,

    Thanks for the post - are any available now? 

    Regards,
    John 

  • Hi John,

    actually it is not a "sneak peak" anymore, it is already officially released since the product page has already appeared under ti.com.

    You can try to order samples here: http://www.ti.com/product/msp430fr5969#samplebuy but i am not sure about the availability.

  • Peter Bigot said:
    he clock speed will not be what you expect if you program it using a FR57xx (CS) register configuration.

    I guess this is the reason whe there is an FR58xx/59xx family users guide in opposition to the FR5xx users guide.

    Personally, I think the whole naming of the FRs is an unlucky draw. The FR57xx already was easily mistaken for a F5xx family member. And not another family branches off.
    Maybe TI is fearing to run short of digits soon, but I had named the FR devices 7xx. Adn teh FR5xx users guide should be ASAP renamed to FR57xx family users guide.
    All this naming is confusing people. And nothing is more frustrating than when you learn after days or weeks of resultless trying, that you used the wrong documentation.
    Peopls who already have the FR5xx family users gide will easily miss that fact that the will need a different users guide for the FR58xx/59xx devices. Bah!

  • JMG,

    I hear you about the documentation and part number confusion.  However, the FR devices do use the same CPU architecture as the F5x family, so that is why we felt it appropriate to name them that.  We do have different User Guides and have changed the name for the FR57xx family to "MSP430FR57xx Family User's Guide"

    The FR58x/59x devices are sampling now.  For your convenience and to save on paper, we integrated the experimental silicon waiver into the sampling process.

    As a tip, the easiest way to keep track of the right documentation, ensure you have the latest version, and have fewer open windows on your desktop is the use the Resource Explorer in the new CCS.  It organizes all available resources like User Guides, Datasheets, code examples, libraries, and demo code depending on which tool or device you are using.  If you are online, it instantly fetches all these things without crowding up your hard drive as well.

    Thanks,

    Jacob the FRAM guy

  • jborgeson said:
    the FR devices do use the same CPU architecture as the F5x family, so that is why we felt it appropriate to name them that.

    Well, 1x and part of the 2x family devices have the same CPu structure while in 2x family, two different CPUs exist.
    The things that were consistenly unique for each family were clock system and flash controller.  Other modules are same on all families or mixed (there are 4x devices with both USART and USCI at the same time) or such. The FR devices do have a completely different clock system than the 5x family and also the non-volatile memory management is completely different. While the CPU is maybe not the same but almost the same as for many of the 2x family devices (430X/430X2). Also, the CPU itself is the least thing a C programmer have to deal with.

    Regarding the resource explorer, how about a standalone version? Not everyone (including me) is using CCS. (and keeping older revisions available instead of only showing the newest is sometimes critical too).
    (And at least in my own experience, fetching documents from TI is often rather slow - I happily spend some MB on my HD if It gets me instant response.)

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