This thread has been locked.

If you have a related question, please click the "Ask a related question" button in the top right corner. The newly created question will be automatically linked to this question.

REF5040: TEMP output

Part Number: REF5040

Hello everyone,

I have question about temperature output of REF50xx voltage reference series. I know that this output is not accurate at all, datasheet says tolerance of +- 15 °C, but I noticed one thing in sheet about offset voltage at 25 °C. The thing is that this offset is listed as 575 mV in Electrical Characteristic table for all devices, but in Functional Block Diagram on page 10 is this TEMP pin driven by current source of 10 uA at 25 °C into 60 kOhm load, which gives 600 mV offset instead of 575 mV.

In fact, we are using this voltage reference a lot, so I measured few populated pieces (every piece from different batch, prototype PCBs). Lowest voltage I measured was about 585 mV = 28,8 °C, cca two degrees above PCB temp, highest voltage I measured was 609 mV = 37,9 °C, cca 11 °C above PCB temp. I did not find any piece with negative temperature error.

So my question - Is it not possible that there is a mistake with TEMP offset voltage at 25 °C? If I try to use 600 mV value to calculate temperature, all temp errors just goes down and pretty symmetrical around real temperature.

Thanks for response.

Martin Lelek

  • Hi Martin,

    I am looking into this - I will get back to you shortly. 

    -Tony

  • Hi Martin,

    It appears like you found an inconsistency in our datasheet - 575mV is the correct number.

    It is likely that the functional block diagram figures were rounded. Consider if the actual values for the current/resistance were actually 9.83uA and 58.5kOhm respectively. Those values would actually give you 575mV, but they can also be rationalized to be rounded to the clean numbers you see in the block diagram.

    You measured numbers also nicely match up to equation (1) in section 9.3.1 of the latest revision of the datasheet. Although, please keep in mind that the number in the EC table is a typical value, and since it can change up or down by 15C, that translates to a potential minimum TEMP pin voltage of 535mV and a maximum of 615mV at room temperature.

    I will make a note to revise the datasheet to make the block diagram more consistent with the EC table & temperature monitoring section - thank you!

    Let me know if this satisfies your question.

    -Tony