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LM5176-Q1: LM5176QPWPRQ1

Part Number: LM5176-Q1
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: LM5176

Hi TI Team,

Can you explain how to calculate power dissipation of LM5176QPWPRQ1 buck boost IC. 

  • Hi Gaurav,

    thank you for using the E2E forum.

    Just to ensure I understood the question right:

    You would like to know how to calculate the power dissipation of the LM5176 device only - not of the full application (incl. e.g. the MOSFETs) - right?

    PS: it looks like you have attached a picture but I can not open it - can you check this.

    Best regards,

     Stefan

  • Hi Stefan,

    Yes I want  power dissipation of LM5176 IC only.

    please see below picture of the circuit. 

     

    we used TI application circuit. (Buck boost) 

    Vin:- 6 - 36V 

    Vout:-  7.5V 

    Iout:- 5.2A

    Best regards 

    Gaurav 

  • Hi Gaurav,

    there are some components which contribute to the power dissipation of the LM5176 which needs to be considered here:

    1. Losses on VCC LDO

    - device operation: supplied from Vcc * Device current IQ (see datasheet for both values)

    - current required to drive the low side FET (this needs to be considered as this current is taken from the Vcc, the high side FET are driven from the current of the charge pump on BOOTx / SWx)
     Calculate the Current required to drive the Gate of the two load side FETs - this will change for the different operation conditions (BUCK/BOOST)

    Both of this two current above are supplied by the LDO to generate the Vcc voltage. So there is an additional loss of:

    [(Vin or VBias) - Vcc ] * Sum of Currents[FETs and IQ ]

    2. Losses on Gate driver - this will change for the different operation conditions (BUCK/BOOST)

    Current required to drive the Gate lines of the 4 power FETs: sum of [ P_Loss_x = R(xDRVx) * I_drive_x ^ 2 ]

    R(xDRVx) : see datasheet

    Best regards,

     Stefan

  • Hi Stefan 

    Thanks for your support 

    i have 1 doubt in point no. 2 

    (Losses on Gate driver - this will change for the different operation conditions (BUCK/BOOST)

    Current required to drive the Gate lines of the 4 power FETs: sum of [ P_Loss_x = R(xDRVx) * I_drive_x ^ 2 ]

    R(xDRVx) : see datasheet)

    In this equation you considered 4 MOSFET operate at a time, but in practically any operating condition( Buck or Boost) at a time only 3 MOSFETs are turning on and 1 MOSFET continually off .

    can you confirm in the equation can we considered  4 or 3 Mosfet.

    Regards 

    Gaurav 

  • Hi Gaurav,

    you are right this will be identical for both mode with having 3 MOSFETs switching.

    If you have identical MOSFETs on the BUCK and BOOST leg then this is identical. If there are different MOSFETs on the BUCK and BOOST leg then this could be different as well

    Best regards,

     Stefan

  • Hi Gaurav,

    as I have not seen further questions on this topic, I assume the issue is solved and I will close this thread.

    If there is still something open please let me know - it will reopen with a reply.

    If all is solved it would be great if you press the is resolved button.

    Best regards,

     Stefan