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TPS65105: TPS65105 internally fails with lower input votlage

Part Number: TPS65105

Hi

We have seen some failed tps65105 parts from the field and we are trying to determine the cause of the problem and have run a few lab tests to try to create the problem. Below is a schematic of the interface.

We have been able to destroy some parts by lowering the input voltage and have seen a working part fail with an input voltage of 3.7V and below.

The symptom is current flow on the input of > 1.5A when no LCD interface is even connected. (Typically the current is about .45A)

When we measure the resistance of the 5V rail we are seeing a very low resistance  (< 10ohms and sometime about 1.5 ohms) without the TI  part being powered up

We have verified that the part does get destroyed by removing the part on a failed board and replacing the part with a new part and then the board works as usual.

In reviewing the datasheet I did not see specific mention that this should be avoided and it appeared the part limits its output current so I was thinking the part was protected against large input currents being generated.

We did not specifically design the board but it was designed for us for our product and I am trying to do some advanced debugging

i have some failed parts. Perhaps TI could examine these parts

Do you have any specific recommendations for me to test out

  • Hi Iance,

    In my understanding of your message, this symptom is happened when Vin<3.7V? 

    The 1.5A current is observed before Vin low or after Vin low? If Vin higher than 3.7V didn't cause this symptom, what's the current value during normal operation?

    TPS65105 has an input current limit with 1.37A Typ. So I suspect this symptom might be caused by over current.

    BR

    Patrick

  • Hi Patrick,

    Yes it occurred with Vin < 3.7V but I don't know the exact voltage which it failed. I have seen failures at as high as 3.7V but perhaps 4V could make it fail, I haven't tried that yet.

    The 1.5A occurs after the chip seems to fail. Once the chip fails it never recovers even after removing power for 5 minutes and trying it again In a working chip the typically maximum current is  about 0.45A

    Your comment of the internal current limit makes me think there was some sort of internal failure but the current limiting feature acts a protection.

  • Hi Iance,

    I'm a little confused, if the 1.5A occurs after IC fail, why the max current is only 0.45A during working after fails?

    BR

    Patrick

  • Hi Patrick

    A working  chip draws < 0.45A

    A failed  chip draws about 1.5A. (once the chip fails it never works again and always draws 1.5A even after the power is removed for a few minutes and then I retry powering it)

  • Hi Iance,

    When you decrease Vin step by step, did you see any drop of Vout? Because TPS65105 has a fault protection by detecting Vout drop. So I doubt the Vout is remain normal state when Vin dropping, then lead to an over current that destroyed IC.

    BR

    Patrick

  • Hi Patrick,

    Would TI be able to do a failure analysis on the destroyed parts which would help to understand exactly what is failing?

    The problem I have, is I am not sure what should be done to protect against this failure?

    Lance

  • Hi Iance,

    Please contact the local FAE to help you on FA. But for this case, I think it's more relate to over current, not relate to device.

    So could you please follow my last reply to see whether Vout was changing when Vin dropped?

    BR

    Patrick