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PTN04050C and PT5040 underperforming

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We have tested the two different boost modules from TI and have run into a few discrepancies with the specifications listed in the datasheet. 

 

For all tests, we are using the following test conditions:

 

Vin: 5VDC

Ta: 25°C

Vout: 12VDC

Iout: 1A

 

PTN04050C

We found that, at 25°C this device will only deliver 1A for 1:30 before it goes into protection mode.  We have no fan and based on the datasheet, we should see no de-rating at 1A until ambient reaches 55°C.  Once the device cools [and comes out of protection], it will only run for an additional 20 seconds and then turn off for 8 seconds.  This cycle will repeat indefinitely.

We were able to identify the stable point as ~750mA which would allow the device to run indefinitely at 25°C.  It appears as though the system shuts down when it’s components reach 113°C.

 

The other issue we have is the efficiency rating.  This part is rated around 85% efficiency with 12VDC output @ 1A but our measurements on two different units show only 67%.  I understand that the specs may be slightly off and some is probably lost in the test leads but a 22% delta is a bit large.

 

 

PT5040

The plot above also shows the efficiency for the ‘5040 and it is clear that the part is a horrible performer above 500mA and is ~33% under spec at 1A out!  Again, the de-rating curve for this part shouldn’t affect performance until 55C.

  

The data also shows that the device was only able to deliver ~350mA before reducing the output voltage.  In fact, 1A @12V was never even possible.

Are these devices performing unexpectedly or are they missing something?

 

 

  • The boost converter, PTN04050C  when operated at 12Vout at 1A load requires the  following measurement  techniques for accurate efficiency and thermal performance.

    1. The required input and output capacitors  must be at least 100uF each.

    2. For thermal data  measurements , the module must be directly soldered into 100mm x100mm copper planes . The SOA thermal data note in the specification identify this requirement to correlate with the published SOA data. If not soldered into this copper surface area, the average SOA temperature  which is listed as about 60°C can be lowered  by 15-25°C or more.

    A. The statement 113°C  measured temperature on the  top side  components with  shutdown . This occurs  at lower input voltages not  measured at input voltage pins and there is no copper thermal surface planes.  This high temperature can overstress the converter  and it exceeds the SOA thermal data.  

    The basic measurement efficiency criteria is:

    A  INPUT VOLTAGE  Meter probes  directly contacting   the input  voltage , pin2,  and ground connection on pin 1.The power (IR) losses on the input power leads is a major factor  for determining accurate efficiency The  average input current is greater than 2.75A when exactly 5V ( measured on pin2 . The power harness wire must be capable of supporting current up to 5 amps or IR losses will occur.  Any  power wires require the input voltage measured directly at  all power pin

    B. Output voltage meter connection must between output power pin and ground

    C. The efficency  as stated in the specification is typical when measured per the above criteria.

     

    A. A sample of PTN04050C was accurately measured today for both efficiency and thermal performance .

    1. Power source was 5V as measured at the input power pins. It was 4.99 v, input current was 2.735A, output voltage was 12V at 1Amp load efficiency=87.9%

    2/. Power source was 4V as measured at the input power pins. It was 4.05v, input current was 3.445A, output voltage was 12V at exactly 1Amp load efficiency=87.0%

    The average top side diode temperature is 79°C on the bench with no airflow.This exactly 5Vin , input current of 2.735A , output voltage =12V at 1Amp maximum.

    Note any decrease in input voltage as measured at the power ;pins increases teh average component temperature.

    My direct contact e-mail is tguerin@ti.com

    Tom