This thread has been locked.

If you have a related question, please click the "Ask a related question" button in the top right corner. The newly created question will be automatically linked to this question.

TPS23881: Perpetual POE and Fast PoE

Part Number: TPS23881
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TPS2388, MSP430F5234

Dear TI team:

I got information from community that TPS23881 can support Perpetual POE and Fast PoE, 

Based on my design, there are some questions need your help.

1. I have a reset signal from host controller to POE MCU, I think this reset signal may impact MCU & PSE controller Perpetual POE feature.

Because host controller may bootup slowly or has abnormal status,then release a reset signal to POE MCU which will interrupt the POE PSE Power, 

I donot know my this thinking is reasonable or not, if this is reasonable, how to avoid this interruption? 

Can it be fixed by SW or need other HW circuit?

2. For Fast POE, Community previous replys that "For Fast PoE, as long as the state/setting on each port is saved in memory. At restart, the PSE system can be turned ON to the same setting it was set to before the power loss."

What is the "memory" meaning? Does that mean we need add one more E2PROM for POE?

BR

Lisa

Community previous replys about Perpetual POE and Fast PoE:

******************************************

The TPS2388 can support Perpetual PoE (sometimes called Persistent PoE) and Fast PoE at a system design level.

For Perpetual PoE, if the switch is being updated from the host controller side, the MCU and PSE controller can continue to power and control each port based on the setting before the host controller is updated.

If the switch is being updated on the MCU side, it is not required but it is recommended to do a power on reset of the PSE controller.

For Fast PoE, as long as the state/setting on each port is saved in memory. At restart, the PSE system can be turned ON to the same setting it was set to before the power loss.

*******************************************************************************

  • Hi Lisa,

    Thank you for your questions, we are happy to help. 

    First, a general note about perpetual and fast POE: these features are not implemented at the PSE level, they are implemented at the MCU level. 

    There is nothing preventing TPS23881 from being able to do perpetual and fast POE, as long as the MCU/firmware is capable of it. 

    1. Your thinking is correct, if the CPU causes the MCU to reset, perpetual POE will be interrupted. As long as the CPU does not cause the MCU to reset or power down, then TPS23881 can do perpetual POE. In order to prevent this, the reset signal sent by the CPU would need to be stopped. 

    2. The memory is referring to the stored PSE settings in the MCU, so it will depend on the capabilities of the MCU and firmware that is being used. We offer a solution for POE that includes TPS23881 PSE controller, MSP430F5234 MCU, and FirmPSE firmware that is capable of this if you are interested.

    Best Regards,

    Nate 

  • Hello Nate:

    Thanks for your reply, And I will check our CPU reset mechanism.

    and now we are using MCU_MSP430F5234IRGZR + PSE Controller_TPS23881A that you referred to.

    BR

    Lisa