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BQ40Z80: BQ40Z80 design review

Part Number: BQ40Z80

Respected sir,

We are using TI BQ40Z80 IC in our design to design custom BMS battery pack having 6s configuration. We are using PDSG functionality in a BMS and Precharge could you please review our design and help us find out if there are any faults present it so we can rectify it before preceeding further. Below are the parameters on the basis of which we are designing our BMS:
COV :4.2 V/cell
CUV : 2.5 V/cell
OCC: 2000 mA
OCD: 2500 mA

I have attached our design schematic and srec file for your reference, please have a look on it. I also want to know apart from BQ40Z80 is there any other BQ chip available for 6s configuration which can fulfill our requirements stated above.

Regards;
Shubham
4544.BMS.pdfBMS NEW srec.zip

  • Hi Shubham,

    Regarding the sent schematic, everything looks alright when compared to the bq40z80EVM. I would recommend adding spark gaps to the SCL/SDA lines, along with at the PACK connection to add another layer of ESD protection.

    I believe that currently the only gauge that meets your requirements of 6s with integrated protections is the bq40z80.

    Would it be possible to send the .gg file of the gauge settings so we can confirm the protections are set correctly?

    Regards,

    Anthony Baldino

  • Dear Sir,
    Below I have attached the gg.csv file you can have a look for reference. I also want to ask one more thing which I came across during an observation while testing. When suppose, I am charging my battery pack and when any cell voltage exceeds COV parameters it corresponding COV flag set and BMS goes in shutdown mode , If am I right ?
    To recover it from shut down mode, I am connecting pack + and pack - of my BMS to charger ( is it alright  to do these ?). Earlier my BMS was working according to these. But yesterday as my bms goes in shut down mode, it is not recovering from it means SCL and SDA lines are not communicating and BQ studio doesnt turn on.

    Please have a look in to these and if there are also alternate ways are there to recover my bms from shutdown mode please suggest me.

    Regards,
    ShubhamNEW_1.gg.csv

  • Hi Shubham,

    When the COV parameters are tripped, below are the set of actions that are supposed to occur:

    As you said, the COV flag in SafetyStatus() is expected to be set, along with the CHG FET becoming disabled via the XCHG bit becoming set.

    However, I am not sure that the gauge is immediately supposed to enter shutdown since it is not one of the listed actions from tripping the protection. There could be another shutdown condition that is occurring along with the Cell Overvoltage Protection. To figure out why shutdown might be occurring, I believe I would need a .log file of the gauge entering COV.

    The actions below should allow the gauge to recover from the COV Protections:

    Regards,

    Anthony Baldino

  • Dear Sir,

    The Gerber files have already been released and the boards are in production. We have seen eval board design in there there is no such spark gap component added but two conducting traces made in parallel for mitigating voltage sparks. As of now we cannot do in our boards. Can you suggest some alternate way of it i.e. is there any spark gaps based component available so we can send the part no and tell them to connect it to SDA & SCL lines wrt ground. And sir one more thing, I am attaching gerber files below please also review it and let me know if it is properly routed or some changes required in it.
    OneDrive_2024-04-25.zip

    Waiting for your reply,

    Regards,
    Shubham

  • Hi Shubham,

    If possible, can you please send the schematic and board layout files (before the gerber release) for the board? This will allow us to have a better understanding when reviewing the design.

    Regards,

    Anthony Baldino 

  • Dear SIr,

    Could you let me know what you mean by previous gerber release? We have previous revision files if you want that, we can provide them to you.

    Regards,
    Shubham

  • Hi Shubham,

    Sorry for the confusion. I was asking for the schematic files and the layout file of the board (.PcbDoc type document if Altium is being used) since this will allow us to take a look at the layout as a whole.

    Regards,

    Anthony Baldino

  • Dear sir,

    Please find the attached files below for your reference and let me know if you find anything improper. The below are schematic and layout files.
    BMS.SchDocOGI_BMS.PcbDoc

    Waiting for your response,

    Regards,
    Shubham

  • Hi Shubham,

    Looking at the sent files, there is not much that directly stands out as improper since this design is very similar to the bq40z80EVM. The only difference I see is the difference of how the PDSG is done on the bq40z80 EVM compared to your design.

    Regards,

    Anthony Baldino