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TPS25830A-Q1: TPS25830A-Q1

Part Number: TPS25830A-Q1
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TPS25830-Q1

Dear Team

Some questions about TPS25830AQ1 need to be consulted

MFI OCP test, when current limit is 3.5A , should add capacitance 330uf, please help confirm below schematic whether the placement is correct?

Meanwhile help review RLIMIT and parallel RC circuit (current limit 3.5A)

  • Hello Shan,

    Unlike the previous variants such as the TPS2583x/4x-Q1, a 330uF cap on CSP is not required on the TPS25830A-Q1 to pass MFI OCP. To support MFI OCP, the TPS2583xA-Q1's high-side current limit was increased to 6.8A.

    The RC network in parallel with R_limit looks good.

    BR,

    Seong

  • Dear Sir

    Please help tell me difference between TPS25830A-Q1&TPS25830AQWRHBRQ1&TPS25830QWRHBTQ1 

    Add the difference in design.

    Do you mean that although my design is 3.5A, But, in order to pass MFI certification, current limit should be set to 6.8A?

    Please provide the value of RLIMIT and parallel RC circuit

     

  • Hello Shan,

    The TPS25830A-Q1's orderable part number is TPS25830AQWRHBRQ1, so the names refer to the same device.

    TPS25830QWRHBTQ1 is the orderable part number of TPS25830-Q1

    The TPS25830-Q1 is the previous gen of TPS25830A-Q1 and the table below highlights the difference.

    As the table shows, the TPS25830-Q1 is not MFI OC compliant; a 330uF capacitor has to be added to CSP in order to pass MFI OCP with a 3A USB port. The TPS25830A-Q1 was designed so that the 330uF cap is no longer needed to pass MFI OCP, thus making it MFI OC compliant, and this was done by raising the high-side peak current limit to 6.8A (characterized to typical 7.1A as stated in the datasheet).

    From the TPS25830-Q1 datasheet:

    From the TPS25830A-Q1 datasheet.

    No, the current limit doesn't need to be set to the peak current limit, typical 7.1A. Let's take a look Figures 10-18, 10-19, and 10-20 in Section 10.3.10.2 of the TPS25830A-Q1 datasheet. When using an external MOSFET for current limit, there are two current limit thresholds that must be implemented to meet the MFI OC requirement. In your system design, ILIMIT1 is set to 3.5A. The second threshold ILIMIT2 equals to 1.6 times ILIMIT1, or 5.6A. This would be a problem if you were using TPS25830-Q1 because the high-side peak current limit is typ 5.4A, so the 330uF is required. For the TPS25830A-Q1, 5.6A is under its high-side peak current limit.

    The R_limit value is good. For designs using an external MOSFET for current limit, with 300Ω R_set and 0.015Ω R_sns, R_limit should be 11.3kΩ to set ILIMIT1 to 3.5A.

    Hope this helps,

    Seong

  • Dear sir

    Thanks for your reply!

    I think there is a problem with your reply

    The R_limit value is good. For designs using an external MOSFET for current limit, with 300Ω R_set and 0.015Ω R_sns, R_limit should be 11.3kΩ to set ILIMIT1 to 3.5A.

    • When using external MOSFET, with 300Ω R_set and 0.015Ω R_sns, R_limit should be 5.5kΩ to set ILIMIT1 to 3.5A. not 11.3k.
    • When without external MOSFET,with 300Ω R_set and 0.015Ω R_sns, R_limit should be 11.3kΩ to set ILIMIT1 to 3.5A.

    Please help confirm,thanks a lot

  • Hello Shan,

    Apologies. Yes, I mistyped. You are correct.

    So 

    BR,

    Seong

  • Dear sir

    Thanks for your support!

    I also want to confirm if both of the following MFI authentication methods can be passed?

    • With external MOSFET:
    • Buck average current limit

    And in order to pass MFI certification, Is it necessary to add external MOSFET?

  • Hi Shan,

    The TPS25830A-Q1 is MFI OC Compliant and either method (w/ External MOSFET or Buck Average) can be used.

    BR,

    Seong