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BQ27426: About manual modification of Qmax Value

Part Number: BQ27426

Tool/software:

Hello

We want to validate: the Qmax and FCC predicted by FuelgaugeIC after FuelgaugeIC learnt by self-learning (Qmax*37%) for batteries with different degrees of aging.

Currently validated for batteries with >70% aging.
Batteries with SOH = 76% have a Qmax value = 1086mAh.

Batteries with less than 60% aging are not able to meet Qmax*37% according to the charge/discharge threshold set by our application.
Reserve capacity in the app = 350mAh.

So, wondering:

Q1, What is the maximum allowable battery aging by performing the self-learning process (passedcharge>Qmax*37%)?
Q2, Is it possible to modify the value of Qmax by directly modifying the Qmax Cell 0 register value so that the capacity needed for Qmax*37% can be appropriately reduced? What is the effect after modification?

Q3, if Q2 is possible, then if Qmax=1000mAh is modified, are there any other registers that need to be modified together? How to modify?

我们要验证:针对不同程度的老化电池,FuelgaugeIC通过自学习(Qmax*37%)后,FuelgaugeIC预测的Qmax和FCC。

当前验证了老化程度>70%的电池。
SOH=76%的电池,Qmax值=1086mAh。

电池老化程度低于60%的电池,按照我们应用设定的充放电阈值,无法满足Qmax*37%。
应用中储备容量=350mAh。

所以,想知道:

Q1、执行自学习过程(passedcharge>Qmax*37%),最大允许的电池老化度是多少?
Q2、是否可以通过直接修改Qmax Cell 0寄存器值的方式,修改Qmax的值,使Qmax*37%需要的容量可以适当减小?修改后有什么影响?
Q3、Q2如果可以,那么修改Qmax=1000mAh,是否有其它寄存器需要一起修改?如何修改?

  • Hello Wang,

    1. I am not sure what you mean by maximum allowable battery aging? Are you asking how much can SOH change by just one discharge or charge cycle?

    2. No, you can not directly modify the Qmax cell 0 register. Qmax is a calculated value.

    3. Question 2 is not possible.

    Regards,

    Nick Richards

  • hello,

    Thanks for you reply。

    Background:

    Battery design capacity 1230mAh, reserve capacity 350mAh, voltage flat area 3679-3803mV.

    1, The Qmax value cannot be modified by Qmax Cell 0. Is there any other way, to modify the Qmax value?

    2、Is there a way to make Fuelgauge learn the Qmax and Ra of a 55% aging battery?How does it work?

    背景:

    电池设计容量1230mAh,储备容量350mAh,电压平坦区3679-3803mV。

    1、Qmax值不能通过Qmax Cell 0修改,是否有其他办法,可以修改Qmax的值?

    2、是否有办法使Fuelgauge学习到老化程度55%电池的Qmax和Ra?如何操作?

  • Hello Wang,

    1. Qmax is only updated when the gauge is being used. So completing charge and discharge cycles. Also, completing the learning cycle will update qmax.

    2. There is not a way to do this. The gauge will just calculate the Qmax and Ra when the time comes for the battery.

    Regards,

    Nick Richards

  • hello,

    1、What is the specific reason for not being able to modify?

    2、What are the effects of manually modifying the Qmax value?

    1. Qmax is only updated when the gauge is being used. So completing charge and discharge cycles. Also, completing the learning cycle will update qmax.

    3、Performing a self-learning process (passedcharge>Qmax*37%), what is the maximum allowable battery aging in %?

    2. There is not a way to do this. The gauge will just calculate the Qmax and Ra when the time comes for the battery.

    1、不能修改的具体原因是什么?

    2、手动修改Qmax值会有哪些影响?

    3、执行自学习过程(passedcharge>Qmax*37%),最大允许的电池老化程度是多少%?

  • Hello Wang,

    1. This is one of the most important values that is used by our firmware for accurate gauging and should be only calculated from the firmware and not user inputted.

    2. The effect would be inaccurate SOC readings.

    3. I am not sure what you mean by this question, can you please clarify?

    Regards,

    Nick Richards

  • hello Nick,

    Battery design capacity 1230mAh, reserve capacity 350mAh, voltage flat area 3679-3803mV.

    1, the device follows a 1-month cycle to self-learn the battery, when the battery ages to SOH=? %, Fuelgauge will not be able to learn successfully again?

    2、Is there any limitation on the battery aging level when FuelgaugeIC is self-learning?

    3. I am not sure what you mean by this question, can you please clarify?

    电池设计容量1230mAh,储备容量350mAh,电压平坦区3679-3803mV。

    1、设备按照1个月周期对电池进行自学习,当电池老化到SOH=?%时,Fuelgauge将不能再学习成功?

    2、FuelgaugeIC在自学习时,对电池老化程度有没有限制?

  • Hello Wang,

    1. The fuel gauge will be able to learn throughout the entire battery's lifespan.

    2. There is not a limitation on battery aging level for self-learning.

    Regards,

    Nick Richards

  • hello nick,

    The fuelgauge self-learns that Qmax updates need to meet Qmax*37%. How does self-learning work if the battery ages to the point where the capacity is less than Qmax*37%?

    1. The fuel gauge will be able to learn throughout the entire battery's lifespan.

    fuelgauge自学习,使Qmax更新,需要满足Qmax*37%,如果电池老化到容量不足Qmax*37%时,如何进行自学习?

  • Hello Wang,

    Qmax will decrease as the battery ages.

    Regards,

    Nick Richards 

  • Hello,

    1. FuelgaugeIC does not place a limit on the degree of battery aging during self-learning. However, when the battery ages to less than Qmax*37% capacity, it will cause Qmax not to be updated. Is this understanding correct?

    2.The requirement for Passedcharge for Qmax update after battery aging. Is there any other requirement other than greater than Qmax*37%? E.g. Passedcharge>Design capacity*37%?

    1、FuelgaugeIC在自学习时,没有对电池老化程度做限制。但当电池老化到容量不足Qmax*37%时,将导致Qmax不能更新。这个理解是否正确?

    2、除了电池老化后,Qmax更新对Passedcharge的要求,除了大于Qmax*37%以外,还有其它要求吗?如:passedcharge>Design capacity*37%?

  • Hello Wang,

    1. Qmax is a value that is always updating. As the battery ages, the Qmax value will decrease accordingly. 

    2. Other requirements for Qmax updates are that the battery needs to be in relaxation, and the temperature needs to be between 10 degrees to 40 degrees Celsius during relax.

    Regards,

    Nick Richards

  • Hi Nick,

    Qmax will gradually decrease, and Fuelgauge will no longer be able to self-learn when the battery charging\discharging power cannot satisfy passedcharge>Qmax*37%. Is this understanding correct?

    1. Qmax is a value that is always updating. As the battery ages, the Qmax value will decrease accordingly. 

    是不是可以理解为:Qmax会逐步减少,当电池充\放电电量无法满足passedcharge>Qmax*37%时,Fuelgauge将不能再进行自学习?

  • Hello Wang,

    Your understanding is correct.

    Regards,

    Nick Richards