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LM5176: LM5176 problems in boost and buck mode

Part Number: LM5176
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: CSD17573Q5B, CSD18532Q5B

Tool/software:

Hello TI team, 

have problems with my first LM5176 proto. I read now all other threads for LM5176, but will start with a bit generalized list of questions. Main requirement is Vin 24V (6-50V range) / Vout 12V / Iout - 2 to 4Amps cont., I out pulse 10A (70-200msec) or so.

1. Starting with zero load and from zero volts on 1A current protection max leads to erratic behaviour over start when 6V UVLO reached - hiccup all the time (hiccup is enabled) and out of regulation, output stay on 7-8V , seems like no damage occur.

2. Going over 12V (tested max up to 18V), never over 1A  - Regulation on output 12V is good, but BUCK leg transistors get really hot in seconds and CC of 1A reached, where I switch the output power.

3. Repeat the test with 120Ohms on the output / 0.1A load - same results.

3. Schematics is very close to EVK and according to XLS calculation tool. In first assumption may be gate transistors of 22Ohms could be too high, inductor of 4.7uH value need optimization or there can be general mess I create with the layout... or all together. Buck side has 3x CSD18532Q5B NMOS and boost side has 2x CSD17573Q5B 

I think this first prototype is already partitialy damaged, but I could be wrong. Will provide more detailed info, schematics and pictures later on.

Any ideas on those symptoms?

p.s. I found at least one potential problem - PGOOD was actually tight to Vin (not to VCC, pin 23) via LED and 22k (and that damage it, since it is max up to 8.5V). But even on voltages below this regulation was not really working. That somehow gets under the radar...

Thanks in advance!

  • Hi Dimitar,

    thank you for using the E2E forum.

    If I understood right you have up to 3 MOSFETs in parallel. This might be an issue of the driver, so you should check if the driver and also the VCC LDO can supply this amount of current.

    Also the 22Ohm are really high so that you get a lot of transition losses.

    I am not sure if you understood your point on item 1.

    Can you also share the XLS sheet you have used for the calculation.

    Best regards,

     Stefan

  • Hello Stefan, 

    I think we actually found part of the problem. Moving from 22 Ohm to maximum of 10 Ohm for gate resistors actually make boost and buck to work - tested with zero load and 100mA (120Ohm load). Now buck part leg (which has 2x in parallel MOSFET (on high side) and one (on low side)  -  (as in the TI EVK) go again to high temperature, when I go to nominal voltage of 24V, but I need to make more measurement and log more data to be sure for this. So, that means calculating again gate resistors and driving possibilities will be most important. And of course I need to test with my desired high pulse and nominal currents.  When I have this additional data, I am going to ask further on, if there are more strange things. Thanks!

  • Hi Dimitar,

    thanks for the update - have a nice weekend.

    Best regards,

     Stefan

  • I drop a note in the PM, it seems it is working better now. 

  • HI Dimitar,

    thanks for the info - just let me know if I can help further.
    Note: typically gate resistors are  in the lower Ohm range: 1 - 6 Ohm and typically used to reduce EMI - so if 0 Ohm works then this is also OK.

    Best regards,

     Stefan