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TPS7A74: How to calculate junction temperature

Part Number: TPS7A74

Tool/software:

Hi Team,

The customer reported that the measured case temperature of TPS7A74 is 90℃. If RθJC(top)=55.3℃/W is used, the junction temperature is about 124℃. Is this expected? In addition, can you share a guide, including how to test the case temperature, etc. Thanks.

Regards,
Hailiang

  • Hello Hailiang,

    Thank you for your question.

    Please allow me 2-3 business days to check through our thermal resources and get back to you.

    Best Regards,

    Hannah

  • Hello Hailiang,

    Again, thank you for your question. 

    Please see http://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/slup415 page 10, where psi parameters are discussed when testing the case temperature. If the customer is using a thermal camera or thermal couple to measure the top of the package, then the psi parameter "junction to top" should be used to estimate the bottom junction temperature. 

    Additionally, how much power is being dissipated through the customer's device? This will determine what junction temperature to expect.

    Best Regards,

    Hannah

  • Hi Hannah,

    The Pd is 0.62W.

    The customer places a heat sink on the IC, should the parameter ψJT still be used?
    In this case, would it be more reasonable to use Rθjc? Could you please confirm the value of RθJC? It is larger than Rθja. Is it reasonable?

    Regards,
    Hailiang

  • Hi Hailiang,

    Yes, after running some calculations what the customer is seeing as their resultant temperature of 124 deg C, that value is correct.

    (0.62*55.3)+90

    This resource should help with when a heat sink is involved in thermal measurements: Semiconductor and IC Package Thermal Metrics (Rev. D) (ti.com)

    EIA/JESD51-1 states that RθJC is, “the thermal resistance from the operating portion of a semiconductor device to outside surface of the package (case) closest to the chip mounting area when that same surface is properly heat sunk so as to minimize temperature variation across that surface.”

    This method forces almost all the power of the test device through a defined surface of the package. Depending on how a heat sink will be applied to the device, this may be the top or bottom of the package. Most generally, it is the top surface of the package.

    RθJA is a measure of the thermal performance of an IC package mounted on a specific test coupon. The intent of RθJA is to give a metric by which the relative thermal performance of a package can be compared.

    So, I would assume to use RθJC with a heat sink. 

    It is reasonable to have RθJC be bigger than RθJA. Many of our devices show a similar characteristic.

    For example: 

    Rth-JA has different heat path than Rth-JC. 

    • Rth-JA: die to leadframe to PCB to air
    • Rth-JC: die through mold to cold plate

    When mold is sufficiently thick or when mold thermal conductivity is low, Rth-JC value can be larger than Rth-JA.

    Best,

    Hannah

  • Hi Hannah,

    Thank you for your comments. I have a concern, why is the difference between RθJC and ψJT so big? If no heat sink is added and ψJT is used, Tj=0.62*1.9+90=90.2℃. It seems that it is recommended not to add a heat sink? Could you please reconfirm whether the values ​​of RθJC and ψJT are correct?

    Regards,
    Hailiang

  • Hi Hailiang,

    "Small Psi parameter values are common for LDOs, as most of the internal integrated circuit is the pass device, which is dissipating the heat."

    Additionally, "Psi parameters provide an estimate of the junction temperature almost independent of the board layout."

    While RθJC is the die through the mold compound to the cold plate. 

    RθJC and the psi parameter are acting as two completely different values due to the independence the dependence on board layout.

    You should add a heat sink, as you will have better thermal dissipation while using a heat sink. 

    Especially if using the heat sink, I would recommend using 1.6 as the value for ψJT. The EVM should more closely relate the heat dissipation of the customer's board with a heat sink. 

    Using the 55.3C for RθJC should work for this application. We do not have an exact value for RθJC with using the EVM, most likely because typically you would use RθJA. 

    Best,

    Hannah

  • Hi Hannah,

    Please recommend which parameter should be used to estimate the junction temperature in this scenario (using a heat sink)? Is it ok to use Psi JT = 1.6? We see from the datasheet that the Psi parameter is used.

    Regards,
    Hailiang

  • Hi Hailang, 

    I misspoke. Please see Using New Thermal Metrics (ti.com) to learn why TI does not recommend using  RθJC. We typically recommend using  RθJA parameter, so you should use the 34.9 C/W parameter to estimate what the junction temperature. If using the Psi JT parameter to estimate junction temperature, then yes use the 1.6 value.

    Best,

    Hannah

  • Hi Hannah,

    Thank you for your suggestion.

    Regards,

    Hailiang

  • Absolutely!

    Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

    Best,

    Hannah