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TPS65910: "SWIO" fails to start

Part Number: TPS65910
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: AM3352

Tool/software:

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When powering up, the "SWIO" voltage may not be output about once in 1000 times.
I am using a combination of AM3352BZCZ80 and TPS65910A31A1RSLR.
Is there anything that could be causing the startup failure?
Please let me know if there is anything that needs to be checked.
-Other voltages are output normally.
-When the output is NG, other power supplies also start up faster than usual. At this time, the rise slope is distorted.
-Forcing pin 1 of the TPS65910 to low will restore "SWIO".
-Pins 1, 40, 37, 45 of the TPS65910 are connected to the AM3352.
Pin 33 "PWRON" is open.
*I am not fluent in English so I am using a translation. Please excuse any strange sentences.
Thank you in advance for your consideration.

---Answer--Field Tolson ------

  • This device was released some time ago, so support may be limited, but I will still dive into this in the meantime.

    • Do you notice this on other/multiple devices?
    • Do you have multiple boards that experience this behaviour? 
    • I think an A B A swap could be helpful, if not already done.
    • Could you provide any captures of this behaviour?
      When the output is NG, other power supplies also start up faster than usual
    • Is above statement pertaining to input or output?
  • Are any interrupts status thrown when this occurs?

As mentioned I'll try and dive into some of the documentation and other issues to see if I can find something similar in the meantime.

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>・Do you notice this on other/multiple devices?
>・Do you have multiple boards that experience this behaviour?
>・I think an A B A swap could be helpful, if not already done.

I have two units, each with a different lot of TPS65910 installed, but the same problem occurs.

>・Could you provide any captures of this behaviour?
> When the output is NG, other power supplies also start up faster than usual

Capture is not ready. The occurrence frequency is low and the waveform cannot be captured well.
I'll try a little harder.

>・Is above statement pertaining to input or output?

It is the output power supply that has a quick rise time and distorts the waveform.
The input power supply rises in the same way every time.
However, it seems that the problem is more likely to occur when the power is turned ON after leaving it for a few minutes, rather than when it is turned OFF/ON repeatedly.

>Are any interrupts status thrown when this occurs?

It is unclear whether the interrupt was activated at the time the problem occurred, but when I checked after the problem occurred, it was Hi.


> As mentioned I'll try and dive into some of the documentation and other issues to see if I can find something similar in the meantime.

We apologize for the inconvenience, but please continue to check.
-------Current state-------
I haven't found the answer yet.
My guess is that in rare cases, the PWRHOLD signal gets asserted too early after VCC7 is applied, causing a system failure.
I suspect the TPS65910 is failing to initialize.


  • I haven't found the answer yet.
    My guess is that in rare cases, the PWRHOLD signal gets asserted too early after VCC7 is applied, causing a system failure.
    I suspect the TPS65910 is failing to initialize.

    Is this a quote from you or from Field who was helping you before?

    Regards,

    James

  • I'm sorry if I didn't explain this well enough. This is my personal view.

  • Hi,

    It is the output power supply that has a quick rise time and distorts the waveform.
    The input power supply rises in the same way every time.

    Even if it is difficult to capture, if we can get a scope shot of the faster waveform behavior, that would be the first step.

    If you can't get a scope capture of the failed SWIO event itself, a scope capture of the inputs and outputs after the failure has happened may be helpful as well. That way we can check the SWIO node before the inductor, the input voltage, and some other output rails.

    Regards,

    James