TPS25751: IEC 62680 test fail item

Jeff YANG

Part Number: TPS25751
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: BQ25792

Tool/software:

Hi,

For below test item, is possible to help us modify VIF file?

Project Name		SGN-TP-12242401 IEC 62680 on BT 20
Company
Test Log		http://share.graniteriverlabs.com.tw/sharing/U78bXZJJE
Test Item		Port A	Remark
Merged USB PD3 CTS	LeCroy	Fail	0114_1st round Test Report: http://share.graniteriverlabs.com.tw/sharing/jn5qfYBex
Type-C Functional	Ellisys	Fail	TD.4.7.1-3: PUT must sink no more than 100 mA. TD.4.7.4: PUT must then present Rd within 100 ms. TD.4.7.5: PUT must advertise Rd within 200 ms./PUT must keep Rd applied for 85 ms./ PUT must enable VBUS within 10 ms to 295 ms. TD.4.7.6: PUT must then present Rd within 200 ms. TD.4.8.3: PUT transitions to Try.SNK within tCCDebounce./PUT transitions to TryWait.SRC within tTryCCDebounce + tDRPTry after entering Try.SNK./PUT must enable Vbus after tTryCCDebounce and before tTryCCDebounce + tVbusON expires. TD.4.10.2: PUT must sink no more than 1500 mA.
	LeCroy	Fail	TD.4.7.2: The PUT does not remains in AttachWait.SRC for 500ms. TD 4.7.3: The PUT does not transition to Try.SNK./The PUT does not transition to Attached.SNK./The PUT does not initiate a PD Explicit Contract. TD 4.7.4: The PUT does not remove Rp and present Rd. TD 4.7.5: The PUT does not present Rd for tDRPTry + tPDDebounce./The PUT does not remove Rp and present Rd. TD 4.7.6: The PUT does not transition to Attached.SRC./The PUT does not negotiate a contract. TD 4.8.3: The PUT does not transition to Attached.SRC. TD 4.10.2: The PUT sink draws current more than BC 1.2 power requirements./The PUT draws more than 1.5A after tSinkAdj expires.

Below is VIF and JSON file. thanks!

Fullscreen TI__Toprock20241212__1.0__10306.xml Download

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<vif:VIF xmlns:opt="http://usb.org/VendorInfoFileOptionalContent.xsd" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:vif="http://usb.org/VendorInfoFile.xsd">
  <vif:VIF_Specification>3.33</vif:VIF_Specification>
  <vif:VIF_App>
    <vif:Vendor>USB-IF</vif:Vendor>
    <vif:Name>VIF Editor</vif:Name>
    <vif:Version>3.11.0.0</vif:Version>
  </vif:VIF_App>
  <vif:Vendor_Name>TI</vif:Vendor_Name>
  <vif:Model_Part_Number>Toprock20241212</vif:Model_Part_Number>
  <vif:Product_Revision>1.0</vif:Product_Revision>
  <vif:TID>10306</vif:TID>
  <vif:VIF_Product_Type value="0">Port Product</vif:VIF_Product_Type>
  <vif:Certification_Type value="0">End Product</vif:Certification_Type>
  <vif:Product>
    <!--Product Level Content:-->
  </vif:Product>
  <vif:Component>
    <!--Component 0: Port A-->
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <!--;Component-->
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <vif:Port_Label>A</vif:Port_Label>
    <vif:Connector_Type value="2">Type-C®</vif:Connector_Type>
    <vif:USB4_Supported value="false" />
    <vif:USB_PD_Support value="true" />
    <vif:PD_Port_Type value="4">DRP</vif:PD_Port_Type>
    <vif:Type_C_State_Machine value="2">DRP</vif:Type_C_State_Machine>
    <vif:Port_Battery_Powered value="true" />
    <vif:BC_1_2_Support value="1">Portable Device</vif:BC_1_2_Support>
    <vif:Captive_Cable value="false" />
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <!--;General PD-->
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <vif:PD_Spec_Revision_Major value="3">3</vif:PD_Spec_Revision_Major>
    <vif:PD_Spec_Revision_Minor value="1">1</vif:PD_Spec_Revision_Minor>
    <vif:PD_Spec_Version_Major value="2">2</vif:PD_Spec_Version_Major>
    <vif:PD_Spec_Version_Minor value="0">0</vif:PD_Spec_Version_Minor>
    <vif:PD_Specification_Revision value="2">Revision 3</vif:PD_Specification_Revision>
    <vif:SOP_Capable value="true" />
    <vif:SOP_P_Capable value="false" />
    <vif:SOP_PP_Capable value="false" />
    <vif:SOP_P_Debug_Capable value="false" />
    <vif:SOP_PP_Debug_Capable value="false" />
    <vif:Manufacturer_Info_Supported_Port value="false" />
    <vif:Chunking_Implemented_SOP value="false" />
    <vif:Unchunked_Extended_Messages_Supported value="false" />
    <vif:Security_Msgs_Supported_SOP value="false" />
    <vif:Unconstrained_Power value="false" />
    <vif:Num_Fixed_Batteries value="1">1</vif:Num_Fixed_Batteries>
    <vif:Num_Swappable_Battery_Slots value="1">1</vif:Num_Swappable_Battery_Slots>
    <vif:ID_Header_Connector_Type_SOP value="2">USB Type-C® Receptacle</vif:ID_Header_Connector_Type_SOP>
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <!--;PD Capabilities-->
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <vif:USB_Comms_Capable value="false" />
    <vif:DR_Swap_To_DFP_Supported value="true" />
    <vif:DR_Swap_To_UFP_Supported value="true" />
    <vif:VCONN_Swap_To_On_Supported value="false" />
    <vif:VCONN_Swap_To_Off_Supported value="true" />
    <vif:Responds_To_Discov_SOP_UFP value="false" />
    <vif:Responds_To_Discov_SOP_DFP value="false" />
    <vif:Attempts_Discov_SOP value="false" />
    <vif:Power_Interruption_Available value="2">DC Power Only</vif:Power_Interruption_Available>
    <vif:Data_Reset_Supported value="false" />
    <vif:Enter_USB_Supported value="false" />
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <!--;USB Type-C®-->
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <vif:Type_C_Can_Act_As_Host value="false" />
    <vif:Type_C_Can_Act_As_Device value="false" />
    <vif:Type_C_Implements_Try_SRC value="false" />
    <vif:Type_C_Implements_Try_SNK value="true" />
    <vif:Type_C_Supports_Audio_Accessory value="false" />
    <vif:Type_C_Is_VCONN_Powered_Accessory value="false" />
    <vif:Type_C_Is_Debug_Target_SRC value="false" />
    <vif:Type_C_Is_Debug_Target_SNK value="false" />
    <vif:RP_Value value="2">3A</vif:RP_Value>
    <vif:Type_C_Port_On_Hub value="false" />
    <vif:Type_C_Power_Source value="2">Both</vif:Type_C_Power_Source>
    <vif:Type_C_Sources_VCONN value="true" />
    <vif:Type_C_Is_Alt_Mode_Controller value="false" />
    <vif:Type_C_Is_Alt_Mode_Adapter value="false" />
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <!--;Product Power-->
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <vif:Product_Total_Source_Power_mW value="36600">36600 mW</vif:Product_Total_Source_Power_mW>
    <vif:Port_Source_Power_Type value="0">Assured</vif:Port_Source_Power_Type>
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <!--;PD Source-->
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <vif:PD_Power_As_Source value="37000">37000 mW</vif:PD_Power_As_Source>
    <vif:EPR_Supported_As_Src value="false" />
    <vif:USB_Suspend_May_Be_Cleared value="false" />
    <vif:Sends_Pings value="false" />
    <vif:FR_Swap_Type_C_Current_Capability_As_Initial_Sink value="0">FR_Swap not supported</vif:FR_Swap_Type_C_Current_Capability_As_Initial_Sink>
    <vif:Master_Port value="false" />
    <vif:Has_Invariant_PDOs value="true" />
    <vif:Port_Managed_Guaranteed_Type value="0">Managed Capability</vif:Port_Managed_Guaranteed_Type>
    <vif:Num_Src_PDOs value="4">4 Src PDOs</vif:Num_Src_PDOs>
    <vif:PD_OC_Protection value="true" />
    <vif:PD_OCP_Method value="0">Over-Current Response</vif:PD_OCP_Method>
    <!--Bundle: SrcPdoList-->
    <vif:SrcPdoList>
      <vif:SrcPDO>
        <!--Source PDO 1-->
        <vif:Src_PDO_Supply_Type value="0">Fixed</vif:Src_PDO_Supply_Type>
        <vif:Src_PDO_Peak_Current value="1">130% IOC</vif:Src_PDO_Peak_Current>
        <vif:Src_PDO_Voltage value="100">5000 mV (Factor = 50)</vif:Src_PDO_Voltage>
        <vif:Src_PDO_Max_Current value="300">3000 mA (Factor = 10)</vif:Src_PDO_Max_Current>
        <vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Debounce value="0">0 msec</vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Debounce>
        <vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Threshold value="390">3900 mA (Factor = 10)</vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Threshold>
      </vif:SrcPDO>
      <vif:SrcPDO>
        <!--Source PDO 2-->
        <vif:Src_PDO_Supply_Type value="0">Fixed</vif:Src_PDO_Supply_Type>
        <vif:Src_PDO_Peak_Current value="1">130% IOC</vif:Src_PDO_Peak_Current>
        <vif:Src_PDO_Voltage value="180">9000 mV (Factor = 50)</vif:Src_PDO_Voltage>
        <vif:Src_PDO_Max_Current value="222">2220 mA (Factor = 10)</vif:Src_PDO_Max_Current>
        <vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Debounce value="0">0 msec</vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Debounce>
        <vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Threshold value="286">2860 mA (Factor = 10)</vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Threshold>
      </vif:SrcPDO>
      <vif:SrcPDO>
        <!--Source PDO 3-->
        <vif:Src_PDO_Supply_Type value="0">Fixed</vif:Src_PDO_Supply_Type>
        <vif:Src_PDO_Peak_Current value="1">130% IOC</vif:Src_PDO_Peak_Current>
        <vif:Src_PDO_Voltage value="240">12000 mV (Factor = 50)</vif:Src_PDO_Voltage>
        <vif:Src_PDO_Max_Current value="167">1670 mA (Factor = 10)</vif:Src_PDO_Max_Current>
        <vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Debounce value="0">0 msec</vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Debounce>
        <vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Threshold value="217">2171 mA (Factor = 10)</vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Threshold>
      </vif:SrcPDO>
      <vif:SrcPDO>
        <!--Source PDO 4-->
        <vif:Src_PDO_Supply_Type value="0">Fixed</vif:Src_PDO_Supply_Type>
        <vif:Src_PDO_Peak_Current value="0">100% IOC</vif:Src_PDO_Peak_Current>
        <vif:Src_PDO_Voltage value="300">15000 mV (Factor = 50)</vif:Src_PDO_Voltage>
        <vif:Src_PDO_Max_Current value="244">2440 mA (Factor = 10)</vif:Src_PDO_Max_Current>
        <vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Debounce value="0">0 msec</vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Debounce>
        <vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Threshold value="244">2440 mA (Factor = 10)</vif:Src_PD_OCP_OC_Threshold>
      </vif:SrcPDO>
    </vif:SrcPdoList>
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <!--;PD Sink-->
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <vif:PD_Power_As_Sink value="15000">15000 mW</vif:PD_Power_As_Sink>
    <vif:EPR_Supported_As_Snk value="false" />
    <vif:No_USB_Suspend_May_Be_Set value="false" />
    <vif:GiveBack_May_Be_Set value="false" />
    <vif:Higher_Capability_Set value="false" />
    <vif:FR_Swap_Reqd_Type_C_Current_As_Initial_Source value="0">FR_Swap not supported</vif:FR_Swap_Reqd_Type_C_Current_As_Initial_Source>
    <vif:Num_Snk_PDOs value="1">1 Snk PDO</vif:Num_Snk_PDOs>
    <!--Bundle: SnkPdoList-->
    <vif:SnkPdoList>
      <vif:SnkPDO>
        <!--Sink PDO 1-->
        <vif:Snk_PDO_Supply_Type value="0">Fixed</vif:Snk_PDO_Supply_Type>
        <vif:Snk_PDO_Voltage value="100">5000 mV (Factor = 50)</vif:Snk_PDO_Voltage>
        <vif:Snk_PDO_Op_Current value="300">3000 mA (Factor = 10)</vif:Snk_PDO_Op_Current>
      </vif:SnkPDO>
    </vif:SnkPdoList>
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <!--;Dual Role-->
    <!--;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-->
    <vif:Accepts_PR_Swap_As_Src value="true" />
    <vif:Accepts_PR_Swap_As_Snk value="true" />
    <vif:Requests_PR_Swap_As_Src value="true" />
    <vif:Requests_PR_Swap_As_Snk value="false" />
    <vif:FR_Swap_Supported_As_Initial_Sink value="false" />
  </vif:Component>
</vif:VIF>

8 months ago

0 Jeff YANG 8 months ago

Mastermind 7865 points

Toprock20241212-1853.zip

This is PJT file

0 Raymond Lin 8 months ago in reply to Jeff YANG

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Hi Jeff,

Who is the end customer and what kind of application are they designing?

What version of the GUI did the customer used for their JSON configuration?

Thanks and Regards,
Raymond Lin

0 Jeff YANG 8 months ago in reply to Raymond Lin

Mastermind 7865 points

Hi Raymond,

I've send relative information via privacy message. thanks!

Jeff

0 Aya Khedr 7 months ago in reply to Jeff YANG

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Hi,

TI U.S. is on Holiday today. Please expect some delay in responses.

Best Regards,

Aya Khedr

0 Jeff YANG 7 months ago in reply to Aya Khedr

Mastermind 7865 points

Hi Raymond,

Please help us for this issue soon. thanks!

0 Raymond Lin 7 months ago in reply to Jeff YANG

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Hi Jeff,

I'm looking into this and will provide update.

Thanks and Regards,

Raymond Lin

0 Raymond Lin 7 months ago in reply to Jeff YANG

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Hi Jeff,

There are several issues related to mismatch between config and JSON, will need JSON update to resolve it. I'm compiling a list of changes needed.

Also can you detail which version of the GUI was the config originally made with? Understand it can be opened with the latest version (v1.0.2) but what was the version of the GUI when you originally exported the JSON for the first time?

Thanks and Regards,

Raymond Lin

0 Gary Teng 7 months ago in reply to Raymond Lin

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Hi Raymond,

We might not check the version about TPS25751 GUI because there's only one version at USBCPD_Application_Customization_Tool link. Please help to update the JSON to the latest verion to us if you think there's compatible issue about the json file and the latest version GUI (v1.0.2). Thanks.

Regards,

Gary

0 Raymond Lin 7 months ago in reply to Gary Teng

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Hi Gary and Jeff,

Can you also provide the schematic for the hardware?
Thanks and Regards,
Raymond Lin

0 Raymond Lin 7 months ago in reply to Gary Teng

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Hi Gary,

GUI v1.0.2 fixed an issue with enabling BC1.2 properly, previous GUI version (i.e. v1.0.0 and v1.0.1) had a bug where even if you enable BC1.2 in Q7 of the questionnaire (Does your device plan to support BC 1.2 and other legacy charging schemes?), GPIO4 and GPIO5 do not get set up properly. Looking at the JSON you provided, this seems to be the case where BC1.2 is not enabled properly. The GUI change log can be found under the 'Help' tab, this page will let you know when each version was release and what changed occurred.

Hi Jeff,

Please check your messages, I've attached a PPT documenting the changes needed on the VIF and JSON. Many of the PD merged test issues you were failing are related to mismatch between the JSON and the VIF. Let me know if there's any questions or concerns!

Thanks and Regards,

Raymond Lin

0 Jeff YANG 7 months ago in reply to Raymond Lin

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Hi Raymond,

I've modified the VIF and waiting for test result.

I want to check for Transmit Source Capabilities (0x32) setting. What means PP3 source? it mean PPHV or PP5V? thanks!

Transmit Source Capabilities (0x32)

–In Source PDO 1 need to enable Unchunked Extended Message Support [48] and USB Suspend Supported [52]

–Need to check schematic and see what is the best option for Power Path for PDO 1 [9:8], may recommend to use PP3 source this PDO (0x2)

0 Raymond Lin 7 months ago in reply to Jeff YANG

TI__Mastermind 34466 points

Hi Jeff,

PP3 refers to PPHV and PP1 refers to PP5V. TPS25751 has firmware optimization to allow 5V sourcing to be provided by a supported BQ device (i.e. BQ25792) on PPHV instead of relying on PP5V.

Prior to re-testing, did you also update the JSON? There were several settings related to PD3 Configuration (0x43) that needs to be updated appropriately.

Thanks and Regards,

Raymond Lin

0 Jeff YANG 7 months ago in reply to Raymond Lin

Mastermind 7865 points

Hi Raymond,

You mean (0x42)? I found the JSON you gave us have already set [4][8][10][11][17][18][19] to enable. thanks!

PD3 Configuration (0x42)

–By default only Unchunked Supported [4] and Support Get Revision [19] are enabled, need to enable the following fields based on system:

Support Source Extended message [8]
Support Battery Capabilities message [10]
Support Battery Status message [11]
Support Sink Cap Extended message [17]
Support Get Source Info [18]
Support Get Revision [19]

0 Raymond Lin 7 months ago in reply to Jeff YANG

TI__Mastermind 34466 points

Hi Jeff,

Let me know test update whenever you get results back!

Thanks and Regards,

Raymond Lin

0 Jeff YANG 7 months ago in reply to Raymond Lin

Mastermind 7865 points

Hi Raymond,

I've send you 2nd run test result, please help check in email.

Seem we pass the Type-C Functional test.

But still some fail in Merged USB PD3 CTS. thanks!

Jeff

0 Raymond Lin 7 months ago in reply to Jeff YANG

TI__Mastermind 34466 points

Hi Jeff,

Looking into the files you provided and will get back to you, for the most part it looks like the issues are mostly related to JSON/VIF mismatch.

Thanks and Regards,

Raymond Lin

0 Jeff YANG 7 months ago in reply to Raymond Lin

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Hi Raymond,

Got it, please let us know which part need to modify. thanks!

0 Raymond Lin 7 months ago in reply to Jeff YANG

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Hi Jeff,

Apologies for the delayed, I'm still working through and checking the changes needed.

Thanks and Regards,
Raymond Lin

0 Jeff YANG 6 months ago in reply to Raymond Lin

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Hi Raymond,

We still don't get any feedback. Would you please support this case? thanks!

Jeff

0 Christopher Lim1 6 months ago in reply to Jeff YANG

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Hi Jeff,

I'm checking with Raymond on the status of this thread. We will provide an update within the next couple days.

Thanks,

Chris

0 Jeff YANG 6 months ago in reply to Christopher Lim1

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Hi Chris,

May I know any good new for this issue? thanks!

Jeff

0 Raymond Lin 6 months ago in reply to Jeff YANG

TI__Mastermind 34466 points

Hi Jeff,

Latest compliance test run still show multiple failures as a result of VIF mismatch, seems like several of the corrections were not implemented correctly. Please review the suggestions I previously provided and make sure their VIF is updated accordingly.

Let us know if there's any questions or concerns!

Thanks and Regards,

Raymond Lin

0 Jeff YANG 6 months ago in reply to Raymond Lin

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Hi Raymond,

I have send few questions by mail. Please kindly help us for these questions. thanks!

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