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TPS552872: Design Worries and complications

Part Number: TPS552872
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TPS552892, BQ25798

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I wanted to design a power supply for an automotive board that would give a robust 5v line capable of surviving most events. The TPS552872 seemed like a great choice, especially the integrated FET's and the boost feature capable of working down to 3V, which is perfect for a Li-ion emergency backup battery. Having said that, when reading the datasheet, 2 things caught my eye.

1. The output voltage response to a load transient: From the figures, a load step from 0 to 2A would give a greater than 500mV output swing. For most applications, this type of swing in a 5V rail would kill most components in that rail. The load step response was made for a 12V output. How does the transient swing correlate with lower Output voltages? If the 500mV swing is independent of the output voltage, is there a way to add a second stage filter/snubber circuit to suppress that swing to an acceptable level?

2. Recommended PCB Layout/Stack-up: The schematic suggests a Multi-Layer Design, presumably 6 Layers. Is this Stack-up essential for the correct operation of the regulator? I am planning on making the board in two layers, as cost is a priority in the design.

  • Hi Ivan,

    Thank you for reaching out. What is the input voltage, output voltage, output current for your design?

    1.The output undershoot/overshoot voltage depends on output cap, bandwidth, output current. So you can add more output caps and increase bandwidth to reduce the ripple.

    2. We recommend 4 layer design for thermal consideration, but it can work with 2 Layer design. Maybe you need some external thermal dissipation methods for better thermal performance.

    Regards,

    Mulin

  • The Input voltage range would be from 3V to 15V. In most scenarios, the converter would operate at around 12-15V. Only in emergencies would it need to go down to 3V, when the device uses the emergency lithium battery.

    The maximum output current is at most 2.5A, as it is only a small MCU and 4G modem with some peripherals.

    Regarding the output capacitors, I am worried the system would become unstable, as I am currently having issues with another regulator from TI using DCAP-3

    Regards, Ivan.

  • Hi Ivan,

    Is output voltage 12V? When input voltage drop to 3V, what is the maximum current it needs to support?

    Regards,

    Mulin

  • The output voltage must always be 5V. Input in normal operation is from a lead acid 12V battery (10-15V). In emergencies (when the car battery is disconnected) the input will be supplied by a lithium-ion battery (at worst 3V). The maximum current in both cases is 2.5A @ 5V

    Regards,
    Ivan

  • Hi Ivan,

    With 3V input, inductor current will reach 5*2.5/0.95/3=4.4A. TPS552872 has 3.3A minimum average current limit. Recommend to use TPS552892 here.

    Regards,

    Mulin

  • Yes, sorry, I noticed the limit around 3 days ago and changed to that part(TPS552892). Searching around, I also found BQ25798, which seems perfect for my application, the only issue is the lack of reverse polarity protection.

  • Hi Iavn,

    BQ part is suitable for a battery charging application. If you have related question, recommend to raise a thread with B125798 and the BQ expert will reply to you.

    Regards,

    Mulin