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BQTesla - customization for lower power embedded application - not Qi compliant implementation

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: BQ51013

Hello,

I'm looking to use the wireless power technology from TI for charging several small watch-like devices used in a manufacturing environment.

I have some questions with respct to this potential application of the standard ICs:

- is the frequency fixed or modifiable?

- I would need to fit the coil inside this watch-like devices, so I'm looking for a receiver coil that is no more than 1" in diameter.  I only need about 50-60mA max.  Are there any known coils or solutions for this that exist already or am I on my own to figure out a suitable coil design?

- could the transmitter coils be implemented with PCB traces?  Ideally, I'm looking to design a PCB that would have several "slots" for charging each of my modules, probably 5-10 per PCB.

- I've seen the information on the Qi charging pad that implements the transmitter coil array.  Does this implementation require several controllers (essentially 1 TI IC for each charging/transmitter coil)?

I don't need target authentication to enable the charging coils, I may just have an on/off switch for the charging station.  Is there a way to "fake out" the transmitter and have it always output the charging field?

Thanks very much!

Any feedback or input is very much appreciated!

Best regards,

Paul

  • I have some questions with respect to this potential application of the standard ICs:

     

    Question 1- is the frequency fixed or modifiable?---No transmitter is will change the freq to set desired output power on the receiver.

     

    Question 2 - I would need to fit the coil inside this watch-like devices, so I'm looking for a receiver coil that is no more than 1" in diameter.  I only need about 50-60mA max.  Are there any known coils or solutions for this that exist already or am I on my own to figure out a suitable coil design?---We are testing 26mm and 24mm round coils for 200mA current now with good results, they can probably be adapted for a 50mA to 100mA application.

     

    Question 3- could the transmitter coils be implemented with PCB traces? ---Possible yes but we do not have a working reference design.

     

    Question 4- I am looking to design a PCB that would have several slots for charging each of my modules?—No the system will only talk to one receiver at a time, one TX charges one RX.

     

    Question 5- I've seen the information on the Qi charging pad that implements the transmitter coil array.  Does this implementation require several controllers (essentially 1 TI IC for each charging/transmitter coil)?—No circuits are used to identify the best coil to use for charging and that coil is used.

     

    Question 6-I don't need target authentication to enable the charging coils, I may just have an on/off switch for the charging station.  Is there a way to "fake out" the transmitter and have it always output the charging field?---No this is not possible,  the receiver sends commands to the transmitter to set the operating point. If the transmitter is not receiving information from the receiver it will end power transfer.

    Bill Johns

  • Hello,

    sorry to hijack a thread but i am looking at a similar app 50 to 100mA, small as possible coil (and pcb / fpcb would be interesting).

    I've noticed some other posts about smaller currents also.

    What type of wire / coil configuration is the 24mm one you mentioned?  Is there a reference design for it, and is there a load line analysis for it? (like there is for the VISHAY IWAS coil in the bq51013 datasheet)

     

    Thanks,

    Michael.