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TPS25762-Q1: Low temperature malfunction at -20°c

Part Number: TPS25762-Q1

Tool/software:

Hello,
We need your help with a problem on a USB C PD. We're using TPS25762-Q1. We started with the associated demo board, then made the circuit on our own boards.
Operation is validated at room temperature, but we're encountering malfunctions between -15°c and -20°c. I can share the schematic by e-mail if required.

The load is a BK PRECISION 8502 dynamic load (outside the oven)
The adapter is a Joy-it COM-ZY12PDN-ST (outside the oven)
The power supply is an ARRAY 3644A set at 15Vdc, current limited to 5A (outside the oven)

Here are the various readings I took:

  • OUTPUT 5V 1A

No malfunction observed. The voltage drop observed depends on the cables used during our installation.

  • OUTPUT 9V 1A 

Same as 5V results

  • OUTPUT 15V 1A

When 15V is activated, noise appears on the output. When the dynamic load is activated, the noise is intensified and the output voltage is shutdown after 500ms. The system then restarts automatically, by default at 5V.

  • OUTPUT 20V 0A

The same malfunction is observed when switching to 20V, the noise is intense and shutdown the system after 500ms.

  • OUTPUT 20V 1A

Same operation with load set to 1A. System shutdown.

  • INPUT vs OUTPUT

This operation leads me to believe that it's the “boost” part that's causing the problem. Do you have any information about low-temperature operation in relation to the inductor used?
Do you have any idea of the representative 500ms delay before shutdown?

Thank you.

  • Hi Alex,

    I agree with your assessment that it looks to be related to boost operation.  I have sent you and email for schematic and firmware config.

    Can you confirm that your load is set to DC constant current?  You used the term "dynamic load" and I want to ensure you don't mean you've set some sort of high frequency AC profile on the e-load.

    Thanks,
    Eric

  • Update following conversation with Eric: we don't have a solution yet, we've tried increasing the chemical output capacitance (assumption of too much boost current), and we've measured the choke at low temperature but no improvement.

    If anyone has any ideas, we'd love to hear from you!

  • Hi Alex,

    Thanks for the update.  I am also struggling to understand this phenomenon.

    A few ideas moving forward:

    • If you are able to share your layout over email, I can take a look at it.
    • Is there any reason to suspect an assembly issue?  Maybe resoldering the device will help?

    Thanks,
    Eric

  • Hello everyone,
    The problem is solved, it was a bad dimensioning of the 33 uF output chemical capacitors, the model we had selected EEE-FN1H330V has an ESR of about 0.88 Ω, against 0.04 Ω for those of the evm. By replacing the capacitors on our board, the problem is solved, and I'll show you a before-and-after graph:

    Thank you,