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TPS63060: Output seems unregulated at startup.

Part Number: TPS63060

Tool/software:

We have used the TPS63060 successfully on 12 different boards over the years. Recently on one board we are getting a lot of failures in Production.

The board uses the TPS63060 to generate 3.45V to run a radio chip and a frontend module.

Recently the majority of the boards fail testing and require most main parts changed until it eventually works. Costly.

Looking at some rejected modules before any repair work was done, many look the same:

Vfb goes to 0.56V, Vout = 3.6V (I believe either the radio chip or frontend module is going out of operating voltage range and is clamping this from going higher.)

The design has not changed since June 2021, and the TPS63060 part was not changed at that time, so the TPS63060 section remains as designed on the original board revision in August 2016.

We have checked the surrounding components and they seem unchanged and correct.

With Vout = 3.6V, Vfb should be 0.521V but it is 0.56V, as if current is coming out the fb pin.

These came directly from TI, so they should not be bad parts, we assume.

If I apply 3.45V to VOUT and measure VFB they are expected, about 0.5V, and the board draws about 30mA.

I am thinking maybe soldering issues, like too much solder under the body. Yet we have improved our stencil printer/printing and pick and place machines over the years, not degraded them. If anything, we put less solder under the body than we did years ago. Though we didn't have issues before.

The radio chip and frontend modules are not running in the first 150ms or so that I am measuring all this. Bypassing the TPS63060 does not draw lots of current so it does not seem to be a large load messing with things.TPS63060.docx

Suggestions?

  • Hi Tim,

    Thank you for reaching out. What is the working condition(Vin range, Vout range, Iout) of the previous projects and current project?

    Is there any layout change? Can you share the previous layout and current layout?

    Can you share part number of the output caps?

    Regards,

    Mulin

  • Hello Mulin,

    Input is 3-5VDC.

    Vout is set to 3.45V.

    We built over 1000 boards over the first 3 years of this version without much trouble. The last 400 over the few months have been a fight. No design changes were done over that time.

    If we have the feedback set for 3.45V, what range of output voltages should we expect?

    I wonder if the latest reel for some reason is more on the high side of tolerances. 

    Thanks,

    Tim.

  • Hi Tim,

    Did you try to solder the failed IC to the good boards that you built before? Will the failed IC work in the good board?

    You mentioned that there is radio chip and frontend modules, can you show me diagram or schematic about how they connected? Is there any external circuit connected to FB pin?

    Regards,

    Mulin

  • Good morning Mulin,

    I have not tried changing parts yet. In production they start swapping ICs and eventually get them to work. To my knowledge they have never needed to change caps, coils or resistors.

    If I remove the switcher and supply the board with my power supply, the feedback voltage is correct, and the board draws only about 30mA. With the switcher in place, the output voltage is high (3.6V) but the feedback voltage is even higher than the resistors should create.

    When I power it up, the output is a steady 3.6V. No ringing, no hunting. It is higher than expected, fb is higher than specified and higher than the resistors should generate. Then EN goes low and it shuts down.

    If the feedback pin was not soldered, I could see the runaway output, but the feedback should match the math. Right?

    Since it doesn't, I would think current is coming out of the fb pin of the switcher. What could cause that?

    Thanks,

    Tim.

  • Hi Tim,

    Thank you for your detailed description about the failure phenomenon. Currently we need to rule out if the issue is caused by IC or board. So as I recommended above, please try to solder the failed IC to the good boards that you built before. If failure disappear, it may caused by external components.

    As I mentioned above, can you help provide some information I need to further analyze:

    1. Can you share the layout file.

    2.Can you share part number of the output caps?

    3.You mentioned that there is radio chip and frontend modules, can you show me diagram or schematic about how they connected? Is there any external circuit connected to FB pin?

  • Hello Mulin,

    I think I am figuring it out. Some of my issue is my scope and meter don't match and I was relying on my scope, which was reading high.

    What does the Enable input look like? A current source or a pull-down resistor?

    How much does it vary from chip to chip?

    Thanks,

    Tim.

  • Hi Tim,

    I am glad to hear that you figure out the cause. The EN is internally pull-down. For variolation, please refer to below:

    Regards,

    Mulin