LM65680-Q1: EMI design advice for a Power and Logic DC/DC converting stage

Part Number: LM65680-Q1
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: LM65680, LM76003

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Hello everyone and TI teams.

I am currently designing my board's power stage which would ideally allow to convert one 36Vdc line in two separate lines:

- A 24Vdc power supply for the motors and drivers

- A 3.3Vdc line to power all my control and logic ICs (mcu, transceivers etc.).

I was considering using the LM65680 to achieve the 36Vdc to 24Vdc conversion, and using an LM76003 to achieve the drop to 3.3Vdc.
As I want to meet the  IEC-61325 standard, which associated EMI standard is CISPR11, I am willing to optimize my board's design to reduce a maximum the risks of EMI event I could have to face.
Knowing that I which of the following configurations do you think would fit my need the best:

- Connecting my two converters in parallel from the same +36Vdc line, using the same switching frequency and synchronizing the to facilitate EMI filtering on the 36Vdc line before both of them. Which from what I understood would also isolate my logic supply from the perturbation induced while driving the motors (feel free to tell me if I am wrong, I'm willing to learn).

Or:

- Connect firstly the LM65680 to the 36Vdc line and drop to 24Vdc line that will supply my motors and drivers, and connect my LM76003 to this same 24Vdc line to achive the drop to 3.3Vdc to allow local filtering for this specific derivation?

Thank you in advance for your time and advices.

PS: I will also consider any alternative design idea if you think it is more optimized.

  • Hi Paul,

    Thank you for using our products.  Either approach may work but IMHO I would put them in parallel configuration for the following few reasons:

    • The LM65680 stage does not need to process the LM76003 stage power.  Otherwise, its power stage must be over designed well beyond your 24Vdc load at an unnecessary high cost. 
    • The LM65680 sync out signal is 180degree out of phase of its switching pulses, allowing to achieve partial interleaving operation with LM76003, which may help EMI. 

    We do have a new device LM656x5-Q1 which is also optimized for EMI like LM65680, and it can replace LM76003 to server the purpose in your design. Please take a look. https://www.ti.com/product/LM65645-Q1

    Hope this helps.

    Best Regards,

    Youhao

  • Hello Youhao !

    Thank you for your answer detailed answer, I'll take a look at the LM656x5-Q1 as you suggested, it indeed may happen to be an interesting update for my design thank you for that. I guess it could also be involved in a better interleaving operation with the LM65680 than the LM76003.

    Best regards,

    Paul.  

  • Than you Paul.  Let us know if we can be of further assistance.  I would suggest to close this thread, and you can start a new thread for new questions.

    Good luck in your project.

    Best Regards,

    Youhao

  • Thanks Youhao, I'll close this thread then.
    Best regards,

    Paul