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above picture is my circuit, can you help me analyse whether there is something wrong with the circuit.
I am sorry the tps2400 can not work normal every time when it  power on.
The voltage of VCCIN is about 10.5v.
the pin5 of tps2400 is 4.69v, the level of  pin4 is 1.9v, the nosfet is shut off.
the event does not  happened everytime!
 
best regards
linjie pan
  • It looks like this circuit is related to application note:  http://www.ti.com/general/docs/lit/getliterature.tsp?literatureNumber=slva163&fileType=pdf

    The gate voltage of 1.9V seems unusual.  Look at VCC IN, pins 4 & 5, and VCC 12 OV with an oscilloscope (10x probe with Rin >= 10MOhm) to see if these are DC or not.  Does the source droop to the UVLO when the load starts to draw current?

    If pin 4 is dc 1.9V, look for board leakage or some other loading on it.

    Other comments are that R30 and R40 are fairly high - does the base of Q1 droop when the TPS2400 turns on?  Your Note 1 indicates normal operation to 15.2V, however the gate drive is a minimum 16V, meaning that probably not much more than 13 - 14V can be expected on the output (somewhat depending on the load current).

  • I try to lessen R30 and R40 down to 10k ohm, the phynomenon still happen.

    the following picture is the wave on pin4, pin5, vcc_12v and vcc_in.

    abnormal situation:

    probel on pin4

    probel on pin5

    probel on vcc_12v

    probel on vcc_in

    normal situation:

    probel on pin4

    probel on pin5

    probel on vcc_12v

    probel on vcc_in

    best regards

    linjie pan

  • It looks to me like there are several problems going on.

    The first problem is that your source impedance is too high for the charge/startup current of the load.  As the load starts drawing current, the source voltgae falls until the TPS2400 UVLO is tripped.  For the capacitive load, the charge current is based on ( Cload x dVout/dt).  There may also be a non-capacitor component of loading.  Sometimes this changes with preconditioning (e.g. starting from fully discharged Cout may be different from a condition with remaining charge - that is some of the circuits may be active).  Some possible isdeas are to:  1) reduce load capacitance, 2) reduce source impedance (or reinforce with a parallel capacitor), 3) slow output dv/dt with a gate-ground series R-C (as a guess, start with a 330pF / 1K), 4)  assure that any load element (e.g. switcher) is held off during start.

    You should check this, but it seemed to me like during the non-start series of pictures that the computed/waveform bias transistor Vbe was too large.  You should try and measure this, but possible causes might be a bad transistor or the C-E reversed.

    You can gain some additional insight by looking at the startup waveforms for a succesful start.

  • it seams that the phynomenon does not happen again after place 1uf capcity between the base of Q1 and gnd,.

    I need to check it more.