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LM3488 12v to 24v Boost Issues

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I have a new layout that is using the LM3488 to boost 11-17Vin to 25v/3A. Switching power supplies are new to me and I have been studying any information I can find over the past few weeks. I chose the LM3488 because it seemed simple and it was supported by Web Bench. 

What I am seeing is an unstable output, but not sure were to look first. While unloaded, there are large ringing pulses at the switching fs. I can see significant ringing on the rising edge of the gate pulse. Over long periods, I can see a 200ms sawtooth waveform with periodic rings. 

When I apply a small load (~400ma) the it looks to be stabilizing, but when I move to around ~800ma, the ringing is severe. 

While the PCB layout is definitely not optimized, it seems the oscillation problem is more likely in the schematic. I will be sending in for a revision of the board on the next few days to fix issues with the main part of the circuit so I can clean up the layout as needed. For the moment though, I feel like I am missing something fundamental that prevents the circuit from being stable. 

If anyone is inclined to point out where I should be looking first, I would be grateful. 

Some basic grabs of the the scope....

Gate pulse......

Output no load......

Output loaded....

Schematic with webbench values. I have studied the data sheet and calculated similar values. I have experimented with some parameters and saw no improvement. When I got to the point where I was just guessing, I thought I should ask for opinions. 

For the purpose of testing. My test PCB is only populated with the schematic above although the full circuit is much larger. There is also 3x 68uf caps in parallel on the output - the just the one shown in the schematic. ESR is around 8mOhms at 200uf. The PCB layout is hard to show because the power section is so close to the rest of the circuit - which may be confusing. If anyone thinks that this output can be fixed entirely in the layout - i will certainly figure out a way to show it.

  • I have since spun a new PCB revision and still having issues. I tightened up the layout significantly with much shorter traces, better isolation of the delicate signals, and additional input/output capacitance. 

    The results are better, but seem to be miles from getting a passing grade. I have memorized the data sheet and scoured the forum for answers but cannot figure this one out. 

    When unloaded, the it will switch for about 6ms and then turn off for about 22ms. This creates a saw tooth output at around 2v p-p. Not sure what would create this behavior. 

    When loaded (lightly) the gate pulse train becomes continuous, but the resulting switching noise is quite serious when measured at the final output cap. 

    Another oddity that I don't understand is that the calculated resistor value to set Fs at 225Khz actually delivers 300Khz. The higher frequency may not create these issues, but the difference may be a clue. 

    Unloaded output shows the result of the interrupted gate pulse train

    Gate pulse on long time base.

    Single gate pulse seems nice and clean from the previous revision result

    Output when loaded (shorter time base) shows switching. Measured at final output cap with very short ground loop probe.

    I am hoping that someone can see something obvious. I am more than happy to be humbled by those smarter than I. 

  • Hello Carlos,

    This isolated forum does not cover your part.

    Can you repost your question on the non-isolated power forum?  You may get help from there.

    http://e2e.ti.com/support/power_management/non-isolated_dcdc/default.aspx

     

    Regards

    Kening

  • Thank you, moving..... ;-)