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TPS61161 ok - TPS61161A no ok

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I posted this problem under another thread last week and all but one of my post have disappeared.

I purchased 10 pieces of the TPS61161DRVR and routed a few PCB's using the chip.  It took about all the chips to get comfortable with the spacing on the CNC machine hand soldering the little buggers.  After coming up with a final design, I purchased 10 more but got the TPS61161ADRVT this time.  After going through 7 of the units and not getting a one of them to work, I finally ordered 10 more of the TPS61161DRVR which arrived today.  Pulling the A version off the boards and inserting the non-A version, I once again have working boards.  Nothing else was change.  It turned out the person from the other thread had A units from a defective lot, not allowing him to change from 600mV reference.

Is there some difference between the ADRVT and the DRVR that I can't figure out, or did I get some bad chips?

Thanks,

David

  • I apologize.  I tried to split your post from the other post after we decided you didn't have the same problem but apparently I did it wrong.  Below was my original answers:

    "I split your post from the original post to which you attached since your problem seems to be different.

    I am not aware of ICs that were misprocessed and that resulted in 0V output.  However, I do know that the small 2x2 QFN requires special care when soldering or the IC will be damaged internally.  The app note at http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/slua271a/slua271a.pdf explains the problem. Essentially, if the IC is heated assyemtrically, then the package and internal bond wires may crack and cause the IC to stop functioning properly.  If you are absolutely certain that this is not the problem, then please send a schematic for me to review.  If the schematic looks reasonable, then I likely will not be able to help further, since the ICs are non-functional, and the next step would be for you to return the ICs to your distributor."

    There is no easy way to confirm the solder damage on the bench.  You could try measuring each IC pin's resistance to ground and compare to a working IC (both out of circuit) but the pins on good ICs are very high impedance anyway so you might not measure a difference.   The only way to confirm this type of soldering damage is through an X-ray of the IC.  That is performed by our failure analysis team, once the ICs have been returned back through the original channel of purchase.  If the any pin other GND measures as a short to GND, that would be another problem.

    Do you have access to a hot plate, solder reflow station or oven?

    I looked in our return tracking system and did not see any returns related to your specific lot code. 

    The A version is the same silicon as the non-A, just with the EasyScale interface disabled via EEPROM.  But if you got the new TPS61161 non-A's to work, then soldering likely isn't your problem and you, unfortunately, got some bad ICs.  As I mentioned above, I didn't see any returns related to your specifc lot code in our quality tracking system. 

    Can you tell me from whom you purchased them so that I get that bad lot removed from stock?

     

  • Hi Jeff,

    I'm using the 61161 as well with no troubles and I have listed the 61161A as an alternate but I am hoping you could provide a bit more detail on your statement:

    > The A version is the same silicon as the non-A, just with the EasyScale interface disabled via EEPROM.

    What does this mean exactly?  We are not using the EasyScale interface and so I am curious if this means it is off by default which would be great.  I wasn't aware of any EEPROM configuration for this chip so I hope you won't mind providing some extra details here. 

     

    Thanks!

  • Thanks for the response Jeff - I purchased the A versions from Newark.

    Is there some program to get these exchanged?

    Thanks,

    David

  • You will have to contact Newark and follow their return policy.

  • In the A version, the EasyScale interface is disabled via EEPROM during manufacturing so the CTRL pin works only as a standard Enable pin.   In the non-A version, you do not have to use the EasyScale interface and can use the CTRL pin as an Enable pin, as long as you do NOT toggle EN within the EasyScale turn-on time window as explained in the datasheet.