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BQ40Z60: Series resistor value at ACP pin

Part Number: BQ40Z60

BQ40Z60EVM has a series resistor 10kOhm at ACP pin. I suspect it to be the major source of Vacp measurement error.

Can this resistior be replaced, say, with 1kOhm or less? (Overvoltage protection is not an issue in my case.)

Regards,

Sergey

  • Hi Sergey,
    The 10k resistor is part of a voltage divider (10k/(10k+100k)) on ACP pin to ensure ~0.9V ( less than 1V Max) input to the ADC, that's why we have 10k resistor.
    Best,
    Haidar
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  • Hi Haidar,

    do you mean 100kOm is an internal resistor in BQ40Z60? Such a divider couldn't guarantee 1Vmax output with 26Vmax input. Data sheet states it a bit differently:

    Anyway, I can see neither 40 nor 100. In fact just about 200mV drops at 10kOhm with Vacp=12V, which suggests about 600kOhm internal resistor (if there is any). This dropout varies with time (mode?) and input voltage and likely serves a source of inaccuracy, which I observe. Calibration brings no relief. Meanwhile battery voltages measurements are quite accurate.

    Please re-check your information. Of course, if 10kOhm is really an intended value for some reason, I would have to give up.

    Regards,

    Sergey

  • RPD

    Internal pulldown resistance ACP 30 40 50

    Above is an extract from data sheet which I unsuccesfully tried to paste directly in the previous post.

    Regards,

    Sergey

  • Hi Sergey,
    I apologize if I have confused you, the 10k external resistor with the 40k (Typ.) internal resistors not (100k I mentioned before) is a voltage divider to ensure scaling charger input voltage to the ACP pin. This is the first scaling stage for VACP then VACP gets scaled internally by ADC MUX so that the ADC can read VACP (Sample) scaled to 1V Max .
    Best,
    Haidar
  • Hi Haidar,

    thank you, this explanation seems to have better ground. Nevertheless, as far as I can see, actual behavior doesn't prove this model.

    Please consider the below data

    Vacp, mV

    Charger enabled

    Charger disabled

    Vacp measured

    drop@10k

    Vacp measured

    drop@10k

    10003

    9771

    203

    10014

    25

    11998

    11769

    206

    11996

    28

    14995

    14770

    209

    14973

    33

    20045

    19736

    216

    19968

    40

     Note: Vacp channel was calibrated at 12V with charger disabled.

    This data suggests that major contributor to the drop voltage at 10kOhm resistor is probably charge pump supply current.

    As to ACP pin pulldown resistor, it may have been switched off when Vacp present, or at least it should be about 5MegOhm to explain few millivolts drop at 10kOhm resistor with disabled charger.

    To have measurements more accurate the drop at 10kOhm resistor should be made minimal (or constant). This is why I ask of possible contra-indications to reducing 10kOhm to 1kOhm or so.

    Regards,

    Sergey

    Vacp

    Charger enabled

    Charger disabled

    Vacp measured

    drop@10k

    Vacp measured

    drop@10k

    10003

    9771

    203

    10014

    25

    11998

    11769

    206

    11996

    28

    14995

    14770

    209

    14973

    33

    20045

    19736

    216

    19968

    40

  • Hi Sergey,

    Yes you can reduce the resistor to 1k to minimize the drop. The ACP pin is the supply for the internal charge pump (CP) and when it draws current, it results in at voltage drop in VACP. Reducing to 1k minimum will help minimize the drop.