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BQ24190: avoid overdischarge in case supplement mode

Part Number: BQ24190
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TPS22918, BQ27542-G1

Dear Sir,

My customer is disigning MCU software for bq24190.

My customer's goal is to avoid overdischarge of battery in case there are no input( USB/ AC adapter) and supplement mode.

Would you please advise following?

 

Qeustion 1  Overdischarge

>9.3.2.3 Supplement Mode >BATFET turns off to exit supplement mode when the battery is below battery depletion threshold

I understand that BQ24190 automotically turn off the BATFET if Vbat < VBAT_DPL( 2.4V ).

But it seems overdischarge state if VBAT=2.4V....

I think there is no way to program Vsys current limit in BQ24190, is it correct?

I should recommend customer to use  external current monitor INAxx and then disable BATFET? or to use switch like TPS22918 ?

If there are any way to avoid overdischarge using bq24190 and MCU only, please advise.

Q2   No battery

>9.3.1.2.1 BATFET Turn Off >When battery is not attached, the BATFET should be turned off by setting REG07[5] to 1 to disable charging >and supplement mode.

Please let me know the way to detect the battery for BATFET disable.

Does it mean  something external mechanical switch for battery detection should be necessary?

Otherwise to monitor the STAT signal blinking (I saw STAT  in the EVM 90ms ; ~ 12Hz  blinking ) is enough?

 

With Best Regards

 

 

 

  • Hello Kanji,

    See my comments below:

    Question 1: 

    The SYS current limit cannot be configured on the device. If their concern is over-discharge of the battery, both current and voltage should be monitored. They could use a gas gauge, like the bq27542-g1 that provides voltage and current information of the battery. The host can obtain IV data from the gauge and determine when the BATFET should be disabled to turn off supplement mode.

    One thing to notice is that if the BATFET is disabled to stop supplement mode, this means the system will turn off, which is expected as this should occur when the battery is approaching depletion. If this approach is used, I suggest determining a reserve capacity (for example 5% of the battery's capacity) and use the gauge to determine when the battery has this capacity remaining. This capacity should be used to do an orderly shutdown of the system. Once the input adapter is plugged in again, normal charging and operation will resume.

    Question 2:

    This refers to scenarios, for example, when the user has the ability to swap batteries or the battery might be absent during normal operation. This is when the BATFET should be turned off, otherwise the STAT signal will begin blinking due to it toggling between the "Fast Charging" and "Charge Done" states. 

    Kanji Shibatani said:
    Please let me know the way to detect the battery for BATFET disable.

    Are you referring to normal battery detection or how to detect the battery conditions to determine when BATFET should be disabled. If the former, the STAT signal blinking along with the toggling of "Fast Charging" and "Charge Done" states is a good indicator that either the battery connection is not solid or the battery is missing. If the latter, please see answer to question #1.

  • Dear Mr Dominguez,

    Thank you for your quick/precise answer . I'll talk with customer.