This thread has been locked.

If you have a related question, please click the "Ask a related question" button in the top right corner. The newly created question will be automatically linked to this question.

BQ51025: bq51025 output shuts down after 50ms

Part Number: BQ51025
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: BQ500212AEVM-550,

Hello Guys,

i have some trouble with a selfmade design of the bq51025 receiver working with a bq500212AEVM-550 transmitter! The EVM-Module works normally with the appropriate bq51013AEVM-764. VRECT reached 8-10V an the output  raised up to 5V.

For the selfmade bq51025 (designed like the appropriate RX-evm) the VRECT-Voltage reached the treshold, but than fluctuated from 8 to 15V. After communication of RX and TX, the TX moves also to power transfer phase for up to 50ms. After this VRECT will not drop out of 5.2V, but rather ~13V. This reaction is independently from the communication current limit (disabled or enabled)! I see that the ss-, id- and config-packet are very noisy, but i have placed some filter capacitors (2x 22uF X5R, 1x 100nF X7R like evm) to minimize the ripple! The Capacitors on the Antenna Out Circiut are C0G/ NP0-type with the dimensions of the evm! The Divider on the Feedback-Pin (VI-REG, VO-REG) operates correctly! If I change the dimensions, the voltage on the output switches to 7V!

In the troubleshooting report it is noted, that such reactions could be initiated by noises on the communication lines, but the filter caps are used like the evm! Differences between the selfmade design and the evm and therefore reasons for the dysfunction could be the following aspects:

-          using of only one microvia for the RECT-balls from the IC (in the datasheet)

-          the filter capacitors for RECT are not close enough to the IC (~11mm)

-          using fixed resistors with a value of 500 Ohms and no variable resistors on the ILIM-pin

-          the output (OUT) is routed about vias directly to a separate inner layer

What could be mainly responsible for the effect?

 

Thank you in advance for answers!

Ch1: OUT

Ch2: RECT

  • Hi Alexander
    The comm packets at start up are a little high(+8V) this could indicate a tuning problem with the RX coil.
    Have you tuned the RX coil, see section 10.2.1.8 ?
    What coil are you using?

    Also the odd thing is the voltage will collapse when output is enabled.
  • Hello,

    Thank you for answering so fast! In my revision (March 2017) of the datasheet, the “Tuning Procedure” is in section 9.2.3.2.8.1. We have used a Wuerth TX-Coil 760308103204 with 16.7uH. Reducing the inductance (TX-Coil with 10uH) for lower coupling was unsuccessfully! On the contrary, to change the TX-Coil on the bq51013AEVM-764 brings the same results (Output works normally at 5V)!

    The circuit is populated with the proper series-res-caps C1 (47nF + 82nF) and the parallel-res-caps C2 (1.5nF + 100pF) like evm-version. Adding further caps for C1 (+18nF) causes, that the Output fails! Is it also necessary to route AC1 and AC2 without GND-Plane in between like a differential pair?

    I'm going to do further modifications and measurements

    Thank you for help and Greetings!

    Alex