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TINA/Spice/TPS40210: Departing from the operating TI model, I modified some parameters and the design doesn't work

Part Number: TPS40210
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TINA-TI, ,

Tool/software: TINA-TI or Spice Models

I'm trying to design a SEPIC converter, with input voltage variable from 15 to 28V, and fixed output voltage of 24V with a 30ohm load.

In some point the ISNS suddenly starts to grow and the overcurrent triggers. I reduced the sensing current values but the problem still remains. May you hel me?

VI28VO24IL800mA.TSC

  • Hi Guillermo,

    I'm looking into this question. Have you tried increasing the soft-start capacitor to help limit the in rush current? What is the ISEN pin voltage when the current limit is triggered?

    Thanks,

    Garrett
  • Hi, Garret

    Yes, I tried a greater cap on SS to reduce the startup ramp and I had the same failing result.

    Please take a look a the attached TINA file. I started from a well functioning TI example (slum492.tsc) and I progressively changed one component at a time, to detect when and why the problem arised.

    Changing the feedback, the output voltage was changed to 24V and it worked.

    Changing the load resistor, it was augmented from 8ohms to 29 ohms, and it worked.

    With the input voltage VIN (designated as VG1 in the TINA file) at 10V it worked fine, but when I changed it to 15V the simulation failed.

    I don't understand why, and mi reasoning is as follows:

    1) The converter operates in discontinuous mode, where with a fixed load the discharge time (when the inductor transfer energy to the output filter+load) is constant, and also the inductor's peak current.

    2) A higher VIN voltage only means that TON will be shorter, so this is not a problem associated to continuous/discontinuous mode changes.

    3) The fact that the same circuit operates OK with VIN=10V shows that this is no a problem on SS start ramp, since in this case the output voltage goal is achieved.

    May you help me? I need this circuit operating with this fixed load resistor powered with 24V, but with an input voltage ranging from 15V to 28V.

    Thanks a lot

    Guillermo (I apologize my english mistakes, I usually speak spanish)

    slum492a4.TSC

  • Hi Guillermo,

    I am looking into this and will get back to you.

    Thanks,

    Garrett
  • Dear Garret,

    I guess I've tried everything and still the simulation fails.

    Have you detected any wrong component or it is a TINA simulation bug?

    I'm a bit anxious because I'm afraid of manufacturing a malfunctioning system ...

    Thanks a lot

    Guillermo

    Note: I plan to use the TPS40210-EP version

  • Dear Garret

    Good news!!!!

    The problem in the circuit is not related to the TPS40210!! The mistake is the diode used in the secondary to rectify. It has an inverse breaking voltage of only 40V, and if you analyze the circuit, when the MOS switch is ON, the voltage on the diode is -(VIN+VOUT).

    Therefore, with VOUT=24 V, it was neccesary only VIN aprox 15V to attain the breaking voltage!

    Thank you!

    Guillermo