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bq27500-v130: Problem with derating the capacity of the battery (2)

Part Number: BQ27500-V130

I am re-submitting this issue, as the issue has been closed before resolution has been reached.

**** To recap the problem:

Our medical product suffers from a small proportion of deployed Li-poly batteries swelling up, which generates too many returns.

Changing to a more robust battery technology is a long term aim, but the short term strategy is to minimise the issue. I have been trying to derate the charge termination voltage from 4.2V to 4.1V and to reduce by half the maximum rate of charging. This is possible because the charger is programmable.

However the battery gauge does not cope well with the change. It is important that the gauge reads 100% charge level when the charger terminates at the lower 4.1V level. Initially I hand edited the .gg file  and reduced the design capacity, CC Threshold and qmax values by about 15% (wrote it into the gauge, performed a reset, allowed an OCV measurement), but at charge termination the gauge still reads a charge level in the mid eighties percentage. Perhaps it would eventually self-adjust the qmax etc after repeated cycles?

My next effort was to perform the bqEasy process of the bqEVSW software. However in the learning cycle it gets stuck because at the end of the charge phase, the gauge refuses to set the full (FC) bit and that prevents the software progressing to the discharge phase.

**** The following advice was posted by Onyx Ahiakwo

Hi Jeremy,
You did not need to make those changes you made. If you are reducing your charge voltage, all you need to do is charge the cells to that voltage and ensure you reach primary charge termination based on taper current and have the FC flag get set. If that happens, the gauge will adjust the cell chg DOD at EOC and adjust 100% to that charge voltage. You may have to run a full discharge and charge cycle to get it to update properly.

  • I have followed your advice, Onyx. What happens now is when the charging current decreases to less than the taper current the FC flag does set and at the same time the state of charge does change from 89% to 100%. However, the charging continues for a few minutes longer until the charger turns off and battery current goes to zero. At that time or soon after the state of charge jumps back to 89%. It also looks like QMAX is not updated to reflect the lower effective capacity of the battery.
    I've run two full charge/discharge cycles, but this effect persists.
  • Hi Jeremy,
    Qmax will not be updated to reflect the lower capacity of the battery. The definition of qmax is the total chemical capacity of the battery. FCC is what is required to get updated to that new capacity. Given that you are using an older gauge, it appears that it doesn't have the functionality which our newer gauges have of keeping SOC at 100% after Full charge is reached. Do you have the RMFCC flag set? Did you change your charging voltage to 4.1V in data flash?
    thanks
    Onyx