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LM3409HV: Strange behavior of LM3409HV

Part Number: LM3409HV

I'm attempting to design an LM3409HV circuit for linear IADJ operation down to 100 mA.

According to the math, 24 KOhm Roff, 470pf Coff, and 330 uH inductor should produce what I want in the 800 KHz range (depending greatly on efficiency).

I have one channel of our production board setup with these values. I removed the output cap we currently use. We use a ZXMP10A18KTC and I've populated Rsense = 0.22 Ohm.

I derived these values from this spread sheet:

Vin 57.5 Volts
iled 1.053 Amps
DeltI 0.05 Amps
eff 0.9
Coff 4.7E-10 Farads
Vo 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 54
Roff 15545.6 20995.62 24452.94 25920.64 25399.69 22890.51 18393.3 11908.16 3435.17 -4774.45
Toff 1.01E-06 8.88E-07 7.67E-07 6.46E-07 5.25E-07 4.05E-07 2.84E-07 1.63E-07 4.23E-08 -5.4E-08
fsw 800000 800000 800000 800000 800000 800000 800000 800000 800000 800000
Lind (uH) 201.6908 266.3043 306.7633 323.0676 315.2174 283.2126 227.0531 146.7391 42.27053 -58.6957
iL(max) 1.078 Amps
Rsense 0.230056 Ohms
Pick Values and derive actuals
Resense 0.22 Ohms
Roff 24000 Ohms
Lind 330 uH
Eff (Guess) 0.6 0.78 0.85 0.87 0.89 0.91 0.92 0.93 0.94 0.95
Toff 1.56E-06 1.01E-06 7.53E-07 5.98E-07 4.96E-07 4.24E-07 3.7E-07 3.29E-07 2.95E-07 2.73E-07
fsw 456128.4 655907.3 784895.4 836176.6 833535.1 780537.5 658483.4 482301.9 253722.3 41881.15
DeltaI 0.047179 0.046123 0.045618 0.045323 0.045128 0.044991 0.044889 0.044809 0.044746 0.044704

However, when I run these values, the behavior is not really matching the predictions. And there is a strange behavior which I don't understand.

Here is a picture of the PMOS gate signal from the LM3409HV:

Here is the input to the 330 uH inductor:

You can see that the gate is charging and then shutting off. Making Ton vary greatly. This causes the part to be running at twice the frequency, taking a lot of energy to charge the gate, and then not actually accomplish much half the time.

I understand that noise can cause this. What else can cause this and how can I get control over this behavior and get the part to generate more predictable outputs?

Thanks in advance.

  • Hello Brian,

    Is your ripple current very low?

    Regards,

  • Thanks Irwin.

    I was just reading through the documentation and just happened to be reading this section when I got your post notification. I was on the right track...

    I am trying to keep the ripple current very low. Suddenly this makes sense. With a 0.22 Ohm sense resistor I have to keep the ripple current above 110 mA in order to steer clear of this behavior. But I need linear behavior down to 100 mA, putting the two qualities at odds with each other.

    To get 1 Amp average current I need a lower sense resistor, to get CCM behavior down to my desired 100 mA, I need a higher sense resistor.

    I have to redo my spread sheet with this knowledge and see what I can come up with.