This thread has been locked.

If you have a related question, please click the "Ask a related question" button in the top right corner. The newly created question will be automatically linked to this question.

LM4040: LM4040AIM3-2.5/NOPB

Part Number: LM4040

Dear support team,

We are using 2.5V 0.1% reference in the many of our products. A few month ago we received the PCB assembly which is operated differently to the all previous batches. We investigate this isuue and found out a strange ripple on the reference output voltage. Please see below the x-ray picture of the old 2010 part, which was still leaded. You can see distinctly the wire bondig connection to the die.

On the next picture there is the part from the year 2018 we have in our stock. It is possible to see the wire bonding connetcion also.

And on the last picture is the stange part we found on the subcontractor assemply. The wires maybe extrimely thin as we cannot recognize them on the picture. The 2.5V refernce voltage exist. The marking on the all parts is R2A.

The questions are:

1) Did you change the production technology for this part since 2010?

2) Is the last part looks good to you?

3) Can the higher impedance of the wire connection will be the reason of the high (5-10mV) ripple modulation on the reference voltage?

BR,

Arie Zillbershtein  

  • Hi Arie,

    1. I will have to check with my internal team.
    2. Can you send me scope shots of the ripple? I have not noticed this ripple on my lab tests.
    3. I do not see why this would cause a ripple as trance resistance/inductance is rather small.

    Can you send me the reel numbers and any other information on the parts you used. This way I can look internally to see what the differences could be.

    -Marcoo
  • Hi Marcoo,

     

    Thank you for your prompt reply.

     

    We asked the subcontractor to send us the information about the reel they used.

     

    The ripple I saw only during the whole system operation. Unfortunately, I didn't take the picture. The system we will have on the next week only and I will try to do that.

     

    When I tested the PCB standalone I didn't see the  ripple on the reference output. This happened only during the system operation.

     

    In any case, the last x-ray picture looks strange to me.

     

    I will inform you when we will have additional information.

     

    Best regards,

    Arie Zilbershtein

  • Hi Arie,

    Thank you for the information. I will await your reply. I am seeing with my internal team what might affect this if the cause is our device.

    -Marcoo